Review: Your Friend, Nate Bargatze

[00:00:08] Speaker A: Welcome. All right, welcome to the Don't Make Me Laugh podcast. My name is Bill O'Donnell. I'm here with my. My Ebert. You're going to be my Ebert. Mark Geary, founder of the Lincoln Lodge, and we're here to talk about comedy. We're here to give you a graduate seminar in stand up comedy via reviewing all the latest Netflix specials. Seems like a new one comes out every day, probably five a day. It's hard to keep up with them all, but we're going to go through every single one of them on this episode here and break down whether or not we think these comedians are funny or just going to talk about comedy. We're using this as a vehicle to talk about. [00:00:55] Speaker B: I thought we were just doing one per episode. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Yeah, one per episode. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Every single. [00:01:00] Speaker A: No, I was kidding. I was thinking, how could you do that? That would. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:01:03] Speaker A: That would take weeks. How you doing, Mark? You don't seem to want to be doing this podcast. [00:01:10] Speaker B: No, I hate podcasts. So let's be honest here. I want to do a disclaimer. I hate what we're doing here. I'm very against it. [00:01:19] Speaker A: All right, why are you doing it then? Why are we here then? [00:01:22] Speaker B: I'm trying to rehumanize myself. You know I told you that, right? I have to become a human being. Human beings seem to like podcasts. I hate them, but. So let's. Let's humanize me and we'll do a podcast. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Tell me again what this is. This is the year of re. Tell me the rabbit. No, no, no. It's actually the year of the snake, I believe. [00:01:46] Speaker B: All right, okay. [00:01:47] Speaker A: But you called this your year of becoming human again. What is it? What you have a name for this year? For you. So this is part of it. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I spent the last five years just whirling like a dervish, just trying, jiggling, you know, spinning plates and stuff. And I'm like, you know what? I got to get back to humanity. I gotta be. I gotta be like a human. And like, what's the problem with the 21st century? Everyone and their goddamn opinions need to be broadcast. So evidently that's. That's why I'm here. [00:02:19] Speaker A: So this is your first step to rehumanizing? [00:02:20] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Is to do a podcast. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Becoming an annoying podcaster. Yeah. All right, let's get it done. [00:02:26] Speaker A: All right, so our first episode here, we're gonna look at the. The comedy of Nate. I don't even know how to say this guy's name. Bargazi. Is that right? [00:02:35] Speaker B: I Think it's bargazi. [00:02:36] Speaker A: Barghesi. [00:02:38] Speaker B: I'm gonna go with bargazi. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Bargazi. Now, full disclosure here. Although I used to watch a lot of comedy, I don't think I've watched stand up comedy in about 20 years on TV. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Similar. [00:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So part of the inspiration for this was I actually did watch this special with my wife in bed and I was totally blown away by it. Not going to say blown away. Impressed, but just blown away by this guy and his approach to stand up comedy. He's so calm, so slow. I've never seen anything like it, I gotta be honest. [00:03:22] Speaker B: I'm joining you. I've got obviously copious notes. We've discussed. [00:03:26] Speaker A: We both got notes, we took notes. [00:03:28] Speaker B: I have not watched comedy specials. There's one comedian, Stuart Lee, he's the only one I will watch. [00:03:34] Speaker A: What's his name? [00:03:35] Speaker B: Stuart Lee is English. You'd hate him. And so when you said this idea for the thing, I'm like, oh my God, podcasts and watching comedy. This is going to be hell. And so I sat down with my missus. I was like, okay, you know, maybe another human being will calm me down. I was ready to hate the shit out of this thing. And it was fucking great. It was like an A. It was a solid A. [00:03:58] Speaker A: So had you seen his act before? [00:04:00] Speaker B: Never. And you know this whole Chicago thing, right? He. He came up in Chicago. [00:04:04] Speaker A: He did, yeah. [00:04:06] Speaker B: So here's what happened. Like, I knew the name of him, never seen him before in my life. He came up when the lodge was kind of escalating. The problem was he did a lot of shows for this other promoter who won't be named here, David. Okay, he will be named here, evidently. And I, so I avoided him. I'm like, well, if he's doing odd shows, he must suck. You know what I mean? Like, and I'm not going to have any truck with him or whatever. So the name, I think he was one of them ones. He was very focused on what he was doing. So he just blew through town, you know, like a whirlwind, because it was like, I'm here to learn, do this and get out. And that's what he did. So I never. I must have met him. I must have fucking met him. I don't recall ever booking him. And, you know, the name just stuck. He's got kind of like a distinctive name, so it sort of stuck, right? And so, yeah, I, that was the thing. I never really dealt with him in Chicago, which everyone is like, oh, you must have known him. And I'm like, no, I never did. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't do any research on him to know that or even that he was here. But I know he's from Tennessee, talks about that in the act. So I just figured he, you know, Tennessee to New York or something like that. But he came through here, came through Chicago, and then. Do you know where he went after that? [00:05:26] Speaker B: I assume New York, probably. No, he might have gone back. Maybe he went back to Tennessee because he's. There's no interface. What I like about him is it's effortless. He's not like, trying to be a comedian. He's just a dude. Like, oh, this is me up here. That's what it seems to me. [00:05:45] Speaker A: Well, that's the genius of the act, right? He looks effortless. He looks like he's not trying. He doesn't emote in any way. It's just like he's talking and talking very slow. Yeah, so that, that. That part of it, you know, that aspect of everything was something I'd never seen. Like, when you're watching him, do you. What other comedians do you think of? Are there any comps? [00:06:07] Speaker B: Not so much Americans that you would know? I don't know. It's not deadpan, because deadpan is, like, trying. That's like Stephen Wright, you know, that's. [00:06:18] Speaker A: Who I had written down here with Stephen Wright. Like, he does a lot like that, but it's that slow, droll. [00:06:23] Speaker B: Oh, I thought he was a bit Hedberg. [00:06:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I got that one too. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Like, Hedberg popped at me like, oh, yeah. This is because he's economical. He's there to do jokes, not around with social points of view. It's just like, here's some jokes I wrote. You know what I mean? And what blew me away. So I was ready to hate on it. I think you were like, I'm ready. [00:06:47] Speaker A: To hit on every standup special. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. Yeah, that's why it's going to be painful. And it started off opening up in the stadium that, like, the Phoenix Coyotes used to play, and it must have been, right, Arizona, whatever. Instantly, the anger's welling up in me. Like, how come I'm still bottom feeding in the gutter at Chicago? And this. This Jeffers, like, playing in. In, like, arenas. Not even, like, up one end. He's in the round, so he's got every seat and the floor. I'm like. I'm like, God, I'm gonna hate this. I'm in the gutter, he's in the stars. This isn't gonna play well. [00:07:31] Speaker A: And I think, you know, that's part of this. This idea we got here is comedians talking about other comedians, and we just naturally want to hate them. Right. Just for their success, just even if they're not successful. I remember being in rooms, and you just. Whoever goes up on stage, you just. You want to hate them. They really have to win you over. So we're gonna look at a bunch of comedians on the show. My guess is we're gonna hate most of them. But this one we both liked. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Against all odds. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Against all odds, yeah. For me, watching him, I never laughed. I liked him. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:08:07] Speaker A: I thought he was really good, and he wrote really well, but I never did more than a hear my nose snort. Like, I never laughed. [00:08:16] Speaker B: That's how I laugh anyway. [00:08:18] Speaker A: You do? [00:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah. My laugh is barely. [00:08:20] Speaker A: It's barely audible. You have, like, a little cackle type of thing. [00:08:24] Speaker B: So who's it. Kaufman used to say I sound like steam escaping. And that is probably like that. [00:08:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But did you laugh? For you. Anyway, whatever your laugh equates to doing this. [00:08:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:37] Speaker A: You did? [00:08:37] Speaker B: I did what I would audibly call a laugh. I mean, there's some bits like. I did it. Did you do an audit of the bits? [00:08:45] Speaker A: I did. I wrote down some of the ones that I liked. [00:08:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:50] Speaker A: And maybe some that I didn't like. But I didn't. I didn't, you know, catalog each bit. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I like the. See, so. So, okay, so he did that bit about the water inspector, and it had some, like, amazing one liners in it. [00:09:06] Speaker A: Yeah. The first one he started with. And again, this is his latest special, your friend Nate Bargains. [00:09:12] Speaker B: Yeah. And so right out of the gate, he won me because I'm like. He's not doing all the trite that you expect. He's talking about, like, a job in very, like, just obvious terms. And that bit about, well, like, he's standing in a field with. With a lamp. It's like. That's funny. Like. [00:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that was good. [00:09:33] Speaker B: You're not gonna fail with that bit because it's hilarious just to even think of it. [00:09:38] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I had that one down, too. That was a good. That was a great one to start with. Because. Because then he, you know, he talks about working for a water department, Right. And that great line, like, where the job is the thing. The job description is the name of the job. Meter reader. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I. At. Right out of the gate, he floors me with, like. He's not even, like, winning me Over. It's like, hate. Like, boom. [00:10:01] Speaker A: You liked him immediately. Yeah. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Could. Just. Because of that. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah. The other thing that was remarkable about the whole act is I don't think he swore once. He didn't talk about anything that was dirty. Filthy. Right. There was no blue material at all. [00:10:17] Speaker B: That must have driven you insane because you would just be sitting there like, come on, say something filthy. Shock me. [00:10:25] Speaker A: No. This is the exact type of comedian that I always wanted to be. Right. I always used to tell you that I wanted to be Jerry Seinfeld. I would go up there and I wanted to have those kind of jokes. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Yet you turned into Otto and George. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I mean, I just. I didn't have it in me. I don't have it. So I super respect guys like him, Jerry Gaffigan, and now this guy that can do an entire act and never, never go blue at all. This guy didn't even swear. Right. Like, it wasn't even anything controversial. [00:10:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:55] Speaker A: He didn't talk about sex. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. Yeah. It was cool. I mean, the next bit he did. So he worried me. He did worry me. He got me worried because there's this whole trite thing now where it's like, I'm a dude, I'm dumb, women are smart. Right. Like virtue signaling stuff. And he started in with a. My wife is the reason I'm here. And I'm like, here we go. We're gonna head down that path. But then he did this amazing switcheroo where he just started ragging on his wife. Like, hit that genius line. Like, I'm married to a. An old man from the Depression. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Cuz she. And he was talking about like. Like saving money and that. That just connected me. Yeah. Cuz I'm like this. [00:11:39] Speaker A: You're so cheap. [00:11:39] Speaker B: It's me. Yeah. I'm like. And he's ragging on it, and I'm looking at my. My Mrs. And she's laughing her head off because she's like, that's just the sort of bullshit that you would do. The toothpaste combining ketchup bottles. Because I combine. I combine barbecue. [00:11:57] Speaker A: You do. [00:11:57] Speaker B: Like I. I never throw. [00:11:58] Speaker A: Bob Marry the bottles together. [00:12:01] Speaker B: And it's kind of like a fine wine. Like you've got all these different barbecue sauces. Now, if you have. If you ever come to my place for a barbecue, what you put on your bun is like a working. Yeah. It's like, it's unique. You never be able to say, I've had that before. Because mine is six or seven different barbecue sauces. [00:12:23] Speaker A: And they're old and expired. Fermented. [00:12:26] Speaker B: All right, let's just pause the podcast here for a scientific. [00:12:30] Speaker A: Okay, break it down. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Barbecue sauce cannot go off. It is 90% vinegar. [00:12:38] Speaker A: Anything can't go bad. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Anything with that much vinegar in it cannot sustain microbes. [00:12:46] Speaker A: What about ketchup? Same thing. Ketchup's got a lot of vinegar. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Ketchup doesn't have significant amounts of vinegar in. [00:12:52] Speaker A: So ketchup can go bad. [00:12:55] Speaker B: I'm on the fence with it. We probably had the same bottle of ketchup 10 years when I was a kid. Never went in the fridge or anything. None of us really at it. So it was there. And we. [00:13:07] Speaker A: Doesn't need to be refrigerated, right? [00:13:08] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. That's American bullshit. Yeah, neither. Neither does mustard. Neither does barbecue sauce. Anything within it. We really should get back to Nate. Bargain. [00:13:18] Speaker A: No, I think we should do a podcast about condiments. [00:13:22] Speaker B: Anything with significant amounts of vinegar in, you bring in a scientist to prove that it can go off. [00:13:30] Speaker A: They can go bad. It can't go bad. [00:13:31] Speaker B: Can't go bad. Anyway. [00:13:33] Speaker A: Vinegar. Never. Okay. Anyway, I thought that was a great line, though, where he says, and I won't do it justice, but when he talks about putting the ketchup bottles together so that you always know your ketchup will be gross. [00:13:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:45] Speaker A: Which is what it sounds like. Your barbecue sauce. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:49] Speaker A: Yeah. He did a great way of, like, putting down his wife, but at the same time, like, kind of complimenting her, how she's in charge and she does everything around, but he's really putting her down because she's like my wife. She's controls everything. [00:14:02] Speaker B: Right, Right. Yeah. Wives are. Wives are generally in control. Women are generally smarter. But you don't have to stand on stage and keep saying it. Virtue signal. We all know that now. Right. So comedians shut up about it. But he did great in that. He. He did the thing to. To calm the room and then ripped to the shreds. Not to shreds, but, like, you know, And I was like, that's good. That's a switcheroony. Right? [00:14:31] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, the. The topics that he did were all like, everything's been done. Right. Yeah, he did, you know, wives, kids, bullshit jobs. But he did them the mark of any good community. Did them in a way that nobody else has done. [00:14:46] Speaker B: Some sundry things. So he dresses good. I like that. Like, he. [00:14:50] Speaker A: I wanted to talk about. Yeah. His appearance. I was bothered by it. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Really. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And I. So I watched it the first Time I watched it is what kind of gave me the idea we should talk about comedians. Right. When we were. I was lying in bed with my wife, and I want to know what Heather thought. Sounds like she liked it. But. But then knowing that we were coming in today to talk about it, I hadn't taken any notes, and you told me you had notes. So I was like, fuck, I gotta sit down and write down some stuff. Cause I don't remember when I watch something, a movie, I can't remember it. Daylight. I don't remember anything that was about whether I liked it or not. And so then last night, I watched it again with my kid, and my kid kind of hit it on the head. He's like, he looks like he picked these clothes out from Target. They're generic, black shirt. Like, it was like, no brands. He's like, these look like no brand clothes. Like. [00:15:39] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's good for a comedian. [00:15:41] Speaker A: Is it? [00:15:41] Speaker B: Yeah, we. I used to teach a class. I was like, don't bring what you think is your funny T shirt. Like, the act shouldn't be about your clothes. He had what I called a generic cool dad look. You know, like when you. Because this is you now, right? You're pushing the big Hawaii Five zero, probably. And you think. And you're thinking. You're thinking, oh, God, I'm such a old twat. I'll try to. I'll try to make some effort with clothing, but not so much that it looks sad. And I think he hit the right spot. [00:16:14] Speaker A: No, to me, his. His outfit was so sad because it was so generic. Like, the shoes. [00:16:19] Speaker B: What did you want? [00:16:20] Speaker A: Like, the leather? No, no. But, like, I guess it's what you appreciate, right? And my kid and I were like, he should be sloppy. Like, we, like Sandler, whatever. Just slop anything together and go out there. That's more authentic. To me, this was like, very curated, generic, bad to go along with his very clean cut, very groomed face and hair. Like, two groomed. Like, eyeliner. [00:16:44] Speaker B: Like, I thought it was all right. The thing that did get me was that the arm behind the back. And he actually talked about it. Yeah. Because I made a note, like, why does he put his arm behind his. [00:16:53] Speaker A: Back before he talks about it? [00:16:55] Speaker B: And then he goes and does a bit about it. I'm like, jesus Christ, he's a mind reader as well. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, that. That was so remarkable that, like, he's in the round here in this giant arena, and he was so calm. Like, he did not look rushed. He did not Ever look flustered, like he didn't like how he could keep his heartbeat seemingly that low throughout. That performance was amazing to me. Right. [00:17:20] Speaker B: Yeah, there was a few of the. Oh. What I do want to know is who opened for him because his kid introduces him. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. He had to have somebody, right? [00:17:30] Speaker B: Must have had someone, right. He didn't just send an eight year old out. [00:17:34] Speaker A: No, no. But in looking some stuff, some stuff up about him in the special. I heard that his dad has opened for him before. Like he has like regular people. [00:17:45] Speaker B: Did you google his dad? [00:17:47] Speaker A: No. [00:17:47] Speaker B: He says he's a magician and he. Oh yes, he truly is a magician. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Really? Like, like a legit magician. [00:17:53] Speaker B: Yeah, Website and everything. I think he was on like, like, you know, he was on like Johnny Carson back in the day. [00:18:00] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:18:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:18:01] Speaker A: So he is like the great bargazzi or something like that. [00:18:03] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. Probably. Yeah. But yeah, so. But I do want to know who opened for him. I couldn't be asked to research it. Yeah. What was the other thing? I know. So I feel like an hour is, is, is. [00:18:20] Speaker A: Was that an hour? Yeah, it was an hour and I. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Feel like an hour is self indulgent for. I mean he carried it off like. [00:18:27] Speaker A: It went by quick to me. It didn't. Did not seem like an hour. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Yeah. You never look to your watch with him. But this whole thing now of all. My hour. My hour. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:35] Speaker B: And I think that's too much for a comedic. [00:18:38] Speaker A: 40 minutes is the max, you think? For anybody. Tell that to Cosby. Cosby's. You three hour shows. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's bullshit. I don't know, I. Maybe it's my age. I could have stuck it when I was younger. Now I'm like, you got 40 minutes clown. Like, you better pack it in. [00:18:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And that's the thing about his cadence or his, I don't know, the way he constructed the act so slow. Like. Yeah, he could have fit in twice as many jokes if he had talked faster. If he, you know, if he didn't go at the pace. He's such a slow pace. Have you ever seen a comedian go with that slow of a pace? [00:19:20] Speaker B: But he didn't feel slow. [00:19:22] Speaker A: No, not really. [00:19:23] Speaker B: But yeah. I don't know. I mean, I remember too fast can be bad though. Do you, do you ever see Richard Jenner? [00:19:30] Speaker A: Richard, Jenny. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Jen, Jenny, Jenny, Richard, Jenny. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Sure. Platypus Man. That was his. That was his, yeah. He had a special called Platypus man, like a half hour special. [00:19:40] Speaker B: Anyway, I always used to go see him because he just. He was like a goddamn machine guy. Did you ever see anyone just be like, boom, boom? I mean, not it. You know, because like Hedberg and Wright are just kind of. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Richard, Jenny did the same as them, but like this hyped up New Jersey and it was just like a gun of jokes coming at you. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:04] Speaker B: So two fast can be bad as well. I mean, I went to see Jenny because I thought he was great, but too, I just wanted to go. Slow it down a bit, mate. [00:20:14] Speaker A: I don't know if you ever confused him, but I always confuse Richard, Jenny and Kevin Pollock. They were at the same time. They had looked similar. Their acts were kind of similar. [00:20:23] Speaker B: I don't think I ever saw Pollock. [00:20:25] Speaker A: No. [00:20:25] Speaker B: I've only ever seen him in the Usual Suspects. Bizarrely. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Was he in that? He's in A Few Good Men. [00:20:31] Speaker B: No, he was in. He was one of the few good suspects. Oh, yeah, he was one of the usual. He wasn't big in it. But anyway, Pollock. Should we. I'm gonna. Let's go back. Right. [00:20:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Okay. My favorite bit of the whole. Bit of the whole of bargazi was the dog dominance thing. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Really? I like that one. I had that one written down too. Yeah. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Well, like the wolf, when he talks about people used to just keep dogs in their yard and the people. You don't want to go back there. There's like a wolf back there. Amazing. [00:21:07] Speaker A: That was good. Yeah, he said they're all doodles now. They're like people. They're basically people. [00:21:12] Speaker B: They're not alphas. Yeah, that was my favorite, favorite, favorite bit. [00:21:16] Speaker A: My favorite bit comes at the end and it's kind of sprawls and into other bits. But with the state fair, he talks about his dad trying to entertain people at the state fair. That's when he brings his dad as a magician. And then they got a donkey going up a high dive. Just that visual of the donkey. That to me was. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Was that the last bit? [00:21:41] Speaker A: No, the very last. It works into the last bit, which is about the wake up call. [00:21:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Which is a brilliant bit. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Right. [00:21:49] Speaker A: Like, who gets a wake up call anymore? Right? Like this generation has no idea what that is. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that was good. I put that. I put. That was like Eddie Izzard, for whatever reason. Like, he must have gotten a little surreal during it. Yeah, yeah, that was the last one. Donkey jump, pig crash, test dummy. And then wake up call. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:14] Speaker B: I'm just trying to think Because I don't want to. Oh. So I put air. He did a bit about living in a cul de sac, and I grew up in a cul de sac. And I'm like, jesus, this guy knows that. Like, connect with anyone from anything. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that was brilliant. Because the same thing we usually was, like, who's coming down this cul de sac? Coming down the end of the street? Yeah, that was great. Yeah. He has splits that, like, you said, everybody can connect with. Like, every man bets. [00:22:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Because when we were kids, I grew up in a cul de sac. Right. So you're playing the street and cars would come down, not knowing it's a cul de sac. You'd have to stop playing football. Then they'd come back up, and then they'd be coming back, like. And then they'd be all mad, like. Like. Because I don't think it even said, like, cul de sac. Dead end. [00:23:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:02] Speaker B: So people would just. Yeah, most of the time it will say it. So. Car drives. But anyway. Yeah. So as a kid, it just took me back to, like, constantly having to stop playing football and then standing there going, this asshole's gonna be back in, like, two minutes. [00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that was good. So I watched it with my wife. You watched it with yours? What, did Heather liked it? Did she laugh? [00:23:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, she liked it. She loves clean. Yeah, she loves, like, she's, you know, Midwestern values. God, she's gonna listen to this. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:37] Speaker B: She's probably the only person. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Right. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Your wife might, but the two people who are gonna listen to this, we gotta be kept. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Right. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Right. So around. [00:23:45] Speaker A: No, I'm not gonna say anything bad about my wife. No way. I've been married long enough to know not to do that. [00:23:50] Speaker B: No, I mean, she loves, like, just clean, nice people with good values. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:57] Speaker B: You know, so, like. Although. No, I. This shouldn't really be a thing about our wives, but, like. But then she likes, like, utter filth like you do on stage as well. She'll laugh at that as well. Yeah, but, like, if you said choice. Right. Yeah, like this. Or she's gonna go with, yeah, I like clean cut people who have life values and whatever. And. Yeah. So it was not hard to get her to, like, watch it. [00:24:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:25] Speaker B: What is your. [00:24:27] Speaker A: She didn't. She didn't really laugh. And I want. I kept asking her what she thought. She's like, I don't know. There's something I don't like about him. You know, she just didn't like. She just didn't like Him. I don't know why. But she didn't. Yeah, she didn't. She would give it a thumbs down, I guess, but. But she doesn't know anything about comedy. I'll say that. You know, my wife. [00:24:47] Speaker B: But I can't. Because I can't even think who Heather actually likes. Likes from coming. Like, she, like, you know, her favorite shows are when the old boys come back into town. It's like, oh, ye. See the old hair. But that's a social thing more than anything. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Nostalgia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:25:05] Speaker B: I can't think of a comedian. She would go, yeah, I'll go see that guy. [00:25:10] Speaker A: Yeah. My kids didn't like. So my. I watched it with one of my kids and then another kid was in and I was like, watch this guy. Do you think this is funny? Because trying to get, you know, they're younger, right? Like this guy. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Well, you've got about 17 kids. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Which ones I. One of the ones that's in the middle, he was there on the couch and then an older one passed through. Neither one of them thought he was funny. Really? Yeah. [00:25:35] Speaker B: But who do they think is funny? [00:25:36] Speaker A: Well, they love Sandler, right? We're big Sandler people. We love Sandler. [00:25:40] Speaker B: He's like, groomed. He's terrible. Anyway, we'll do a Sandler special and then we'll talk. But. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Yeah, have you seen the new one? [00:25:47] Speaker B: I can't believe he groomed your kids into Sandler. [00:25:51] Speaker A: He's the best. He's the best. I came across something that I think applies to this guy, and I want to know what you think. Somebody said something along the lines of or asked along the lines of, does this guy say funny things? Or does he say, wait, does he say funny things? Or does he say things funny? You know what I mean? [00:26:16] Speaker B: I know exactly what you mean. There's too much of an emphasis on say things funny these days. No one, like, does the bada bing, bada boom. And I think it's. I mean, God, this could be a whole sociology lecture at this point. But I like people that write jokes. You can't be a joke right now. It's been subverted into like, well, I gotta get my viewpoint over and do this and that. And it's what I call enthusiastic storytelling at that point. Yeah, because, like, I know you hate it, but I taught a comedy class at one point. [00:26:56] Speaker A: You can't teach comedy, but go ahead. [00:26:58] Speaker B: Yeah, let's set three hours aside for that debate. But, like, if you're a comedian, right, it can't just be, blah, blah, blah, Blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. It was sort of funny. There has to be a point where you pause and I laugh. Like, that's the trade off. There has to be a point where you stop and I fill the gap with laughter. If that is not happening, you are not a comedian. Or if you are stopping and there is no laughter, you're a bad comedian. Right? [00:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm familiar with that. Yeah. [00:27:36] Speaker B: So it's bad comedian stock. No laughter. Good comedian stop. Laugh. [00:27:41] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [00:27:43] Speaker B: No stop equals no comedian. [00:27:45] Speaker A: Well, then would you call Robin Williams? He never took a breath. [00:27:49] Speaker B: I never really liked him. I know there's like a cult around him of stuff. I don't know. I might have been. I did. What's the one where he did sort of make me laugh in one special. He did, you know, the. Where he. It's at the Met Opera or something. And he. He runs out and he picks up this Viking helmet or something and he goes, oh, Placido Domingo's at the. At the Laugh Stop now, going, hey, what did you think of this order? And I thought that stuck with me. I was like, oh, that's really funny way to play it. But I can't say I ever saw enough of him. [00:28:24] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I mean, whenever I would see him on a show or something, he was just frenetic. Just stream of consciousness craziness. It was never funny to me, but. But, you know, regarded as one of the best. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Well, I think with Nate Bargazzi, he's a little both. Right. He says. He definitely says things funny. Right. In a funny way. But he also says funny things. Right. So he's got both. Which I think makes him really good. [00:28:53] Speaker B: I think he just says things in a. I think he says funny things in a way that doesn't seem forced. [00:29:00] Speaker A: Definitely not forced. But it. It does seem a little contrived. Right. I think if we watched more of it because he was new to both of us. Right? [00:29:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:29:09] Speaker A: We would start to see the. [00:29:11] Speaker B: There was a little bit of Southern bullshit creeping in. Like, people in the south say this and I'm very. That was probably the low point for me. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:18] Speaker B: If I. If I was like, okay, you're going to lose me. When he started doing the Foxworthy a little. Yeah, yeah. When he went Foxworthy, I was like, oh, it's been a good ride, but I'm getting off the bus now. But he didn't dwell on it and he came back to. [00:29:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But I thought that whole. The bit about community college was pretty good though, you know? Maybe because, you know, teaching in a community. Well, he. He. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Oh, that's when he did all the language. [00:29:43] Speaker A: That's when he worked in, like. Yeah, yeah. [00:29:47] Speaker B: I mean, I like. Yeah, I think just when he went to the accent stuff, that's kind of lazy. And so I don't like that stuff. You know, I. I could have made a career as a comedian coming to America doing, like, hey, you know, I say this, you say that, that Bullshit. [00:30:05] Speaker A: Yeah, Yakov Smirnoff. [00:30:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm like, I. To me, if you start doing that, like, because, like, Foxworthy gets all the bad rap. Like, oh, he's the one that did it. I think Foxworthy is actually better than people give him credit for. [00:30:22] Speaker A: It's all the ones that came after him, like, yeah, Larry the Cable Guy and Ron White and those guys. [00:30:26] Speaker B: Because what Foxworthy was really talking about was being working class. Yeah. I mean, he pitched the Southern thing because he sells tickets. Yeah, right. No, he's just talking about being working class is what you're really talking about here. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but what I appreciated about this guy, Nate Bargazzi, was that he's Southern, but he didn't go other than the one you're talking about. He didn't go into those tropes that the Southern comedians do. [00:30:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:30:52] Speaker A: He could be Southern but not be like that. Right. Not be that stupid stereotype. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that was good. [00:31:00] Speaker A: So one other term, one other term that I had not heard before, and it kind of goes back to what I said at the beginning. How can you enjoy a comedian but never laugh? Right? But I did. I never really laughed, but I enjoyed them. Maybe I enjoyed the craft more than the laughs. This term clapter, have you heard this term before? [00:31:21] Speaker B: No. [00:31:22] Speaker A: It clapped her clap. Clapping and laughing. It's like instead of laughing, the audience was clapping a lot. Like, how do we judge what's really funny? He's great. But is he funny? Right? Is it funny? Is it. Can it be funny and you don't laugh? [00:31:42] Speaker B: I think it can, yeah. I mean, like, Eddie is our. I find funny. And he's not like. I mean, he used to, when he was younger, do more jokey jokes, but now he just sort of tells stories and it makes me laugh. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't make me laugh. It just. I go, this is gonna be amusing. [00:32:02] Speaker A: Yeah, amusing, enjoyable, but not funny. Right. Is the measure of a comedian how much they make you laugh? [00:32:11] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. Not anymore. No, it ain't. Rodney Dangerfield time anymore. Right. It ain't like set up punch, setup punch. Okay. That guy was good. That guy wasn't. [00:32:24] Speaker A: I think that's. That's. We've moved past it, but I think that's a complaint. That's the complaint of our generation. Right. Comedians today, they just go up there and they talk about their families and their lives, and there's no jokes. Right, right. There's no laughter. [00:32:39] Speaker B: It's just. Yeah, yeah, it's. [00:32:42] Speaker A: But he had. But he had joke. These were jokes. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:32:45] Speaker A: These were scripted, setup, punchline jokes. Clearly still didn't laugh. Right? [00:32:53] Speaker B: Well, like I say, I never laugh. I did what I approximate as a laugh. So we'll call it I Laughed. Yeah. I don't know. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Well, it'll be interesting to see as we go through some more of these comedians. Yeah. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Because the next one we're gonna. [00:33:09] Speaker A: If we really laugh. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:33:10] Speaker A: Well, maybe, maybe. All right, so to wrap up here. Okay. Because, you know, the inspiration for this was Siskel and Ebert. I loved Siskel and Ebert. I had the chance to meet Siskel and Ebert both. I thought it'd be great to put that same model towards comedy. Okay, so we're not doing thumbs up and thumbs down, right? You give him. But if you were going to give the comedy equivalent of a thumbs up and say, does he kill? He kills or does he bomb? It's kind of black and white there. [00:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:33:44] Speaker A: I might put it somewhere in the middle, but you're giving him a kill. You killed. [00:33:47] Speaker B: Firm kill. [00:33:48] Speaker A: Firm kill. [00:33:49] Speaker B: No. What does it say in the Army? Confirmed kill. [00:33:51] Speaker A: Confirmed kill. I like it. Yeah. I guess I got to give him a kill. I mean, you can't give him a bomb. He didn't in. No way. But what. But what guy is gonna bomb in this special, right? [00:34:04] Speaker B: Oh, a lot. To me they are. Yeah. [00:34:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:34:08] Speaker B: All right. Oh, one. One more technical point I forgot to say, and I hate this. And it's very specific to American comedy. Cause I know you're fiercely patriotic, so I thought I'd annoy you. People, like, say, oh, I got married last year, and they get a round of applause. Or like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Like, when he said, I've been married 17 years, they all went, yeah, it's. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Like, round of applause for that. That's just something you do. [00:34:36] Speaker A: That bothers me, too. [00:34:38] Speaker B: And like, I. I took a. I took a couple of tours of American comedians to England, and I tell them, like, don't say, you know, oh, I got engaged, and expect a round of applause because The English people are just gonna sit there and go, I don't give a fuck. Get to your jokes. Right? And I really wish people would not do that anymore. I got married. [00:35:02] Speaker A: We just had a baby. [00:35:04] Speaker B: Who cares? [00:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah, but they have to do that to introduce the whatever. The next, you know, whatever the bit is, right? He's going to talk about his wife. So he says, I've been married. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah, but you could say it in a more casual way. I mean, there's a pause. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Yeah. He's waiting for the. [00:35:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:35:19] Speaker A: The applause to that. Yeah. [00:35:21] Speaker B: Anyway, I hate to end on a negative, though, because he was so good. He was so good. [00:35:25] Speaker A: He was. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Talked about the arm behind about. I just want to pick out one more thing. Oh, the. The pizza party. That's like a close. That is a close second. Like, I gotta call my friends and ask them exactly how much pizza earlier in the day. [00:35:44] Speaker A: How much pizza is brilliant? [00:35:46] Speaker B: That's brilliant. That's like, utter brilliance to just even think. Like, I mean, maybe his wife does get on him and say, I'm not gonna, like, because that would be me. I am his wife. I would be like, I'm not gonna order too much and either throw it away. Like, I've done things before. I cater to the party. I had to eat pasta for 15 meals in a row one time. [00:36:12] Speaker A: Because you throw it out. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Yeah, because I catered a party and I wouldn't throw it out. So at that pizza bit where he's calling his friends and saying, like, how much pizza you think you're gonna eat? Oh, my God. That was definitely. [00:36:24] Speaker A: That's the bit they use. Like, if you're. If you're just scrolling around on Netflix and you land on that to see if you want to watch it, that's the bit they carve out for you to see the teaser. [00:36:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So I want to end on that. On how great that was, because I didn't want to end on a bum. [00:36:38] Speaker A: Okay. All right. Way to keep it positive. So you're giving it a confirmed kill? Two confirmed kills. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:43] Speaker A: For Nate Bargazzi, my friend. Your friend. Our friend, Nate Bargetzi. Let's see now. I'm hoping we can get some of these guys to come on. [00:36:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, of course. They're lining up. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Well, hey, seven listeners text odd and say, hey, you got Bargetzi's number. These guys are doing a podcast. See if he'll come through. Right. [00:37:06] Speaker B: Oh, my God. You could reach up to seven people listening to this podcast. [00:37:13] Speaker A: You never know. Ever. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Now, two wives, three kids, and Two cats. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Yep. That should be the name of the show. [00:37:19] Speaker B: My cats. Such assholes. They won't listen to it. But anyway, what's the next assignment? [00:37:25] Speaker A: I. You know, I probably should have planned that. All right. But I thought that we could. We were not limited. [00:37:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Because we could do that. We. If you pick one out, we can say what we think we're going to think of it. [00:37:36] Speaker A: That's a good idea. [00:37:37] Speaker B: An interesting hook. [00:37:38] Speaker A: I know you don't listen to podcasts, and the only podcast I listen to is the Spade and Carvey podcast, which I think is great, but my wife listens to the Jason Bateman Smartless. You've heard of it, I'm sure, right? [00:37:51] Speaker B: No, it's literally a dead subject to me. [00:37:54] Speaker A: But what they do on that podcast is they. There's three guys, Arnett Bateman and Sean Hayes, and each episode, one of them brings in the mystery guest. Right. [00:38:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:06] Speaker A: So maybe for us, we can. One at the end of each episode, we'll take turns. I'll tell you what we're gonna watch next, and then the next one, you tell me what we're gonna watch next. All right, So I think because it came up and because I'm an avowed Sandler fan, we watch his new special. I can't remember what it's called. [00:38:27] Speaker B: I'm going to hate Confirm Bomb is what I'm going. [00:38:31] Speaker A: You can't go in, like. You got to go in with an open mind. [00:38:33] Speaker B: No, I'm never going to go in with an open mind. [00:38:35] Speaker A: All right, well, it's not going to happen. Well, I look forward to arguing with you about why Adam Sandler is the best comedian. [00:38:42] Speaker B: Well, you've already seen it. [00:38:44] Speaker A: No, I haven't, actually. My kids had it on, and I sat through a little bit of it. [00:38:48] Speaker B: And I just, like. [00:38:49] Speaker A: I was like, this is great, let's. And they shut it down. They didn't want to keep watching for whatever reason, but. So I've only seen bits and pieces. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Okay. All right, which one is it? Adam Sandler. I. Adam Sandler. The same old shit I've been peddling for 30 years. Is that what it's called? [00:39:07] Speaker A: I think that's what it's called. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Adam Sandler. Vaguely funny. [00:39:11] Speaker A: Adam Sandler, but it's not broke. Don't fix it. [00:39:13] Speaker B: Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler. Do a stupid voice. That'll cover up the gaps. [00:39:21] Speaker A: That's gonna be a good one. All right, so next time, Adam Sandler. Whatever the fuck new thing he's got out is, and I look forward to it. [00:39:29] Speaker B: Excellent. [00:39:30] Speaker A: All right. [00:39:30] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:39:31] Speaker A: All right. Thank you. [00:39:32] Speaker B: It should always end every episode. [00:39:34] Speaker A: Did Siskel and Ebert shake hands? They hated. [00:39:36] Speaker B: They hate. Yeah. [00:39:37] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't hate you, though. [00:39:39] Speaker B: What about the new guy that replaced Roper? Does he hate him as well? [00:39:44] Speaker A: They don't do it anymore. They don't do the show. [00:39:45] Speaker B: Oh, okay. All right. All right. That'll do. [00:39:48] Speaker A: All right.