Review: For Your Approval, Ellen DeGeneres

[00:00:08] Speaker A: This. [00:00:08] Speaker B: Copious notes. Oh, copious. I thought I'd be doing the talking. Yeah. There's. [00:00:15] Speaker A: I don't have anything. Yeah, I did. I watched Schwartz and At work, though. During office hours. Threw that on there. I won't reveal where I work, but probably shouldn't be watching some of this stuff at work on their hardware. [00:00:32] Speaker B: I never watched stuff at work. [00:00:34] Speaker A: No. [00:00:34] Speaker B: No. And there were some people who were just brazing about it. You'd walk past their cube and like a goddamn, you know, baseball thing in the corner. You know, admittedly like. But I was like, wow. Symbolics. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:47] Speaker B: And I would watch. I would always go in on Mondays and Fridays when no one else went in post pandemic. And I would put. I would put motorcycle racing on my phone. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:59] Speaker B: But it would be like here. And I could just flick a piece of paper over it. [00:01:03] Speaker A: What you do on your phone is your own business, right? [00:01:06] Speaker B: Well, I don't know about that. [00:01:08] Speaker A: But anyway, as long as it's not a company phone. [00:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's company band. No, I wasn't. Because I was on 5G. So anyway, whatevs. I thought it was pretty ballsy. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Yes. [00:01:19] Speaker B: Well, all right. [00:01:19] Speaker A: When do you like to watch comedy? In the mornings? Never. I didn't give that as an option. But in the evenings at home alone. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Wednesdays. Wednesdays is good because she's not gonna be there and I'm not gonna have to deal with a fallout. [00:01:38] Speaker A: No. But not what day of the week. [00:01:41] Speaker B: What time. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Yes. Late at night, probably night. [00:01:46] Speaker B: I don't know. Early night. [00:01:48] Speaker A: You think that's when people are more wanting to laugh as late at night. That's. The whole model is built of the comedy nightclub. [00:01:55] Speaker B: I actually have been doing like Sunday afternoon. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker B: Because I'm trying to fit two in a week. [00:02:02] Speaker A: I actually just came from. That's why I had to push this back. I came from a concert this afternoon, a rock and roll concert at Martyrs where I saw Hamilton Lighthouser who actually looks very much like Nick Swartzin. I won a thing on the radio. I didn't win a thing on the radio. There's a thing on the radio. Like, put this code in and you can come to this pop up show of this Hamilton. [00:02:25] Speaker B: I mean, I know from the Walkman. [00:02:27] Speaker A: The singer of the Walk. [00:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah. They play him. I listen. I got satellite radio and they play him all the time. College radio things. I'm familiar. Yeah. It was Martyrs. I've only ever seen one show there, which is weird. One show that was not. Was something taken to it's. Really weird how they survive. Like. [00:02:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I've only been to one other show there my 25 years here and. [00:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah, and they have shows, you know, I'm not. At one point I was a mute. You know, a going outy person only ever went to Mars once, which is weird. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Well, my point that was saying that, you know, to watch a rock show at noon on a Saturday, you wouldn't think that was. But it was great. Maybe because I'm old, you know, but I also enjoy watching movies in the morning. First thing in the morning, you get up, cup of joe and put on an important film. You know the same. And I'm going to go back to my idea about stand up comedy in the morning. Opening up a place serves bagels, coffee, come in, there's a guy in the or. [00:03:27] Speaker B: What are you talking about doing there? [00:03:28] Speaker C: That was me talking about that. Well, separately. [00:03:30] Speaker A: You're stealing my idea. [00:03:32] Speaker C: Somebody's gonna steal my idea. [00:03:33] Speaker A: I knew it. Nobody wants out of here. [00:03:34] Speaker C: Don't tell people. Stealing his idea. [00:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I knew it. Just cut me in. What were you saying? [00:03:41] Speaker C: 10%. I was talking about having like a Sunday matinee thing here because like in the summertime especially we have all this foot traffic going by and having somebody. I was, I wanted to like make a backdrop where the. Because the sun's gonna be coming through the window too bright, you know, because I want to have it in the bar area. Oh, and like, you know. Yeah, like coffee and mimosas and stuff like that. And just like. And have, you know, a couple of the people that we know are funny around here just doing their bits. [00:04:07] Speaker A: You don't like the idea, but. And you had this idea this week? [00:04:11] Speaker C: It came up. Yeah, like a week and a half ago, the first time. And then I just. We just talked about it the other day. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm just trying to get credit for the idea. But what do you think? Stand up comedy in the morning, Maybe bring in an outside vendor for bagels or something. They have bagels there. [00:04:28] Speaker B: Maybe. [00:04:29] Speaker A: See, mine was more about like a Tuesday morning commute. Like you're coming into your coffee and Starbucks, there's a guy in there on the mic, hot mic, and people like, hey, look at this guy's ready to go. Look at the briefcase, bro. Where are you going? Right, like people don't do use briefcases any shit like that. Like doing crowd work as people are coming in. Is that not fucking great? [00:04:48] Speaker C: You could just do that. [00:04:50] Speaker A: I think I would love it. [00:04:51] Speaker B: You get Punched out and like. [00:04:53] Speaker A: No, I wouldn't go mean on anybody. [00:04:54] Speaker B: You spend most of the time on the floor, like, all right. [00:05:02] Speaker A: I get a bad rap for that. Because the one guy came on stage to fight me. That's one time I would keep it nice in the morning. I'm not trying to antagonize. Okay. So I watched this one. In this one being part of our Oscar series. It's Oscar weekend. Are you gonna watch the Oscars on Sunday night, Mark? [00:05:22] Speaker B: No. [00:05:22] Speaker A: No. Did you see any of the Oscar films this year? [00:05:25] Speaker B: I just watched the. The Cat one. No, that's. Is that the cat from Croatia? Because it's a black cat. So I was like. I watched that. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Oh, you watched the shorts, though. We talked about it last week. [00:05:36] Speaker B: You watch? Yeah, I always watch the shorts and. [00:05:39] Speaker A: See, that's so funny, because most people. That's the only thing they don't watch, or nobody watches the shorts. Yeah, except for you. [00:05:45] Speaker B: Well, most people are idiots. [00:05:47] Speaker A: So I did watch one short last night as I fell asleep. Anuja. You see that short 22 minutes about a girl who's smart but is working in a textile factory in India. [00:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you saw that? That's part of the whole program. [00:06:03] Speaker A: What happens? I fell asleep. [00:06:04] Speaker B: My God, it is depressed. The whole short program, the live short, depressing as shit. World countries just all like it. Guy. A guy gets pulled off a train in like former Yugoslavia and, you know, during the Holocaust. No, in the. When the, you know, the Serbs. Croatian thing was going on. So there's that and then there's another thing. And then the one that you think's going to be funny ends with the woman throwing herself off the bloody roof. It's like, God, this is too bruising. Like, throw us a bone. [00:06:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Little comedy, right? Little comedy short in there. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Yeah, Even, like I say, even the one you think is going to be funny. [00:06:44] Speaker A: So you didn't see any of these films, like the Brutalist or Nora? [00:06:48] Speaker B: I saw the Cat one. [00:06:50] Speaker A: The Cat one. Oh, Flo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but for Best Picture, Flo's nominated for best International picture. Christian, did you see any of these movies? Who do you like? What movie did you like? [00:07:00] Speaker C: I'm trying to remember. I watched a movie recently, but I'm not sure if it's an Oscar nominated one. It was about a guy with. He had a real messed up face and. [00:07:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that is. I haven't seen it. It's nominated for best. Wasn't the Elephant man in fact or something? Or cost something? [00:07:17] Speaker C: Sure, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was. It was different. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Perfect. Something I think it's called. [00:07:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't remember at all. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Okay, well, let me see. [00:07:26] Speaker B: I'm just looking up the Oscar nominated movies. 2025. Ah, diddly do, diddly do diddly do. [00:07:34] Speaker A: Are you looking at them? You want me to tell you? [00:07:36] Speaker B: Substance. Didn't see. Brutalist. Didn't see. [00:07:39] Speaker A: Substance was amazing. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Conclave. Didn't see. [00:07:42] Speaker A: Not bad. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Complete unknown. Didn't see. Dune Part 2. How did that get a nomination? I thought it was abysmal. People said. [00:07:51] Speaker A: I watched last night, the original Dune. David Lynch's Dune. Have you seen that? That's. [00:07:55] Speaker B: I saw it a while back. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Amelia Perez, that I saw this week. Not bad. [00:08:02] Speaker B: Wicked. Definitely not. No, I haven't seen any of these. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Okay, well, moving right along to our one time, frequent time, multiple time Oscar host, Ellen DeGeneres. DeGeneres. DeGeneres. And her special, her most recent special, don't exactly know when it came out last year. Sometime for your approval. And I think this was your recommendation, Mark. So. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Yep. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Take it away. What? What? [00:08:37] Speaker B: Cards on the table. Huge Ellen fan. Huge Ellen fan. Full disclosure. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Or as Ellen would say, I'm not gonna lie. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Or truth be, you know, if I can be honest here, I love it. [00:08:50] Speaker B: So anyway, when I first come to America, I was like, okay, I better listen to some American comedians. Get, get in, get in with what's going on here. And Ellen was the second. The first comedian I like was Chris Rock. Second was Ellen DeGeneres. And I, I thought she was awesome. She had like dead pan down diamond lines. And then unfortunately I found out, I used to. When I had a place in la, I used to go to this comedy club. And I asked, this guy was kind of like one of them who knew everyone. And I said, oh yeah, I really like Ellen. She seems really nice. And jet down to earth. And he was just like, he just looks at me, he goes, let me tell you something about that woman. She wouldn't give you the steam off her piss. She is like tight as a duck's ass. And it's just like, it's all front. I was like, really? And that really kind of ruined it for me at that point. I was like, dang it, dang it. You know what I mean? Like, here's something I really thought was a genuinely nice person. And, and that's how I found out, you know, decades before it all came out about her. Although funnily enough, the fact that she bullied her employees kind of made me like her a Bit more identify with. [00:10:08] Speaker A: That, I think, more than anything. Yes. Bully in the workplace is something you like. [00:10:13] Speaker B: But anyway, it was at that point I was. I was smitten, comedically speaking, anyway. So I would always like watching stuff. [00:10:21] Speaker A: Sounds like you had an attraction to her. [00:10:23] Speaker B: You say you're smitten, comedically speaking. [00:10:25] Speaker A: Qualified it, but yeah. [00:10:28] Speaker B: So heading in. Heading in. I know this was meant to be a big apology. Her big, like, hey, this is my side of the story. This is my day in court. And I was kind of worried, so I was like, is this gonna make me not like her even harder? [00:10:47] Speaker A: And. [00:10:49] Speaker B: And, well, I've done a lot of talking at this point. Right. I mean, what do you. What's your Ellen take? [00:11:02] Speaker A: I. I liked her when you liked her right. Back in the 80s. She's part of that, you know, know, jacket and tie, stand up. [00:11:15] Speaker B: 80S golden. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's great. And. And what I, after watching this reappreciate, is if she's the one writing these jokes. These jokes are phenomenal. These are. This. This is amazing writing. Right? These are great, great jokes. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Because I put her up there. I know. And I'm just saying this to annoy the. Out of you, but I'd put her there with Seinfeld as a joke writer. [00:11:39] Speaker A: These jokes are in. In his style or in his manner. That kind of observational type of stuff. And. Yeah, I agree. As good as his. [00:11:48] Speaker B: I'll throw you some bones of what I thought of the thing. The boxer. The boxer intro. I called it the boxer intro. You know, like, she's. She's getting ready for the big fight, and, you know, there's flashbacks to what comes before. I just thought that's just too pretentious. Like, keep that out of a comedy special. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah. The hype video kind of was kind of like a hype video of her career, her milestones, you know, coming out and then the. Yeah, yeah. [00:12:17] Speaker B: All the controversy. I thought that was a bit pretentious. One thing. I mean, she had a great opening thing about just, what have I been doing? I got some chickens. And just kind of go. That was good. [00:12:31] Speaker A: Because she's dancing around what everybody's thinking. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And then. Yeah. And I thought that was a great way to let the air out of the room. Was just kind of like, not just gonna go straight into it. Let's just do some jokes. That was. But there's an annoying bit where she said, I'm not using Botox anymore. And it got like a. Like an ovation almost. And I'm like, You can't get an ovation for not doing something that's stupid. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know if that was what the ovation was for because I, I've, I've marked a bunch of times when she got these weird kind of out of place ovations. [00:13:06] Speaker B: What like woo, that was one. [00:13:09] Speaker A: Right? There are a couple there, right. Just weird. [00:13:14] Speaker B: Well, it was virtue signaling and that was a thing through it that constantly annoyed me. Is that the ovations, the round of applause, virtue signaling stuff. That was really bad. [00:13:27] Speaker A: We could stick with the intro for a minute. Like the show's called for your approval. Everybody probably knows going in and I guess she was on some kind of tour doing this, but that she's out trying to clear her name. To clear her name. I guess we could put her in the category with some of the others that we've talked about of the comeback comedian. Right. I don't know if this is on par with Louis CK or some of the other people, but she's coming back from something and so it's like that. And she talks about how she cares what people think too much right away. Right. And that's where the botox bit comes in. And then she goes into A, you know, 10 minutes on, you know, mundane car things like the windshield wiper and this button and that button. [00:14:09] Speaker B: But it was good stuff. That was. [00:14:11] Speaker A: No, it's all good stuff. No, I'm just, I'm just looking at how she tiptoed into it. But now that, you know, after listening to you at the beginning talk like about the apology. There really was. Was no apology. No, there wasn't a single. There was no apology here for anything. [00:14:27] Speaker B: No. [00:14:28] Speaker A: Right. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:29] Speaker A: She doesn't apologize for anything. She does. We don't. I still don't know what she did. Right. She doesn't really address that. [00:14:34] Speaker B: Well, she talks about the meaning like, oh, is she gonna be mean in the restaurant? [00:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Which was made. Yeah. And it was great. And I kind of like that. I kind of like fronting up, going, you know what? I might be mean, but what, what the shit that. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Why can't you expect me to be nice Because I'm a woman. She does all that stuff. And if it was a man, then you could scream all he wanted and. [00:14:57] Speaker B: That was a bit weak. [00:14:58] Speaker A: But, but, but she never apologizes for apology. I don't. Do you even know what she did? What? I mean, other than just this general accusation of being a bully in the workplace, Is it. Was there anything sadistic or really over the edge that. [00:15:15] Speaker B: No, I don't know. I don't think anyone was, you know, people. Oh, I was traumatized by working there and stuff. But, yeah, I never heard a hard. Like, she walked up and kicked me in the bollocks or, you know what I mean? And I'm like. And I look at my behavior and I'm like, jesus Christ. You know? [00:15:34] Speaker A: But this is why I think people hate her. And so, like, when everybody heard the story that she was an awful person and was running a show like a tyrant and everything, boom, we all hate her immediately because of the hypocrisy, right? Like, her whole thing is, I'm nice, look at me dance and be kind to one another. And if she's not that, then her. Right. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's the thing I was telling you about. That comedy club owner told me, you know, I mean, like. Yeah, and it is disappointing. [00:16:04] Speaker A: It's. It's reminiscent of a. Another comedian who'd been canceled, and that's Bill Cosby, right? Who preaches family values and, you know, how everybody should act and decorum and all this stuff with the youth and. And then he's out doing what he's doing, right? There's a great. Somebody was. I don't know who sent it around this week, but we ever see Norm MacDonald on Jerry's Comedians with Cars. Comedians getting coffee in cars. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Well, that's the scooter thing. [00:16:31] Speaker A: Yeah, Right, right. Oh, that's where you saw the scooter. [00:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Okay. And he's with Jerry and they're talking about Cosby. And he said, well, Patton Oswald said he can't get over the hypocrisy of the whole thing. Right? Cosby doing that and then, you know, speaking out the other side of his mouth. And then Norm says something like, that's not as bad as the other thing to me, the raping, right? He does the whole thing about raping. Jerry fucking loses it. Right? That's worse than the hypocrisy, raping. But it's so crazy that you have a story going back 20 years or more about her being an awful person back then. How does a person that's awful like this get a feel good, nice talk show like she had, right? Be like learning that Drew Barrymore is a real, you know. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you know, you. You're a performer. You're putting on a mask, and that mask is one thing, and what you are is the other. And yeah, I remember there was a thing about. Wasn't it, Steve Harvey just laid off all his workers One day, and he. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Was kind of Family Feud. [00:17:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But he just was like, I'm doing it, and that's it. No one questioned it. [00:17:50] Speaker A: Right. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Because it was like, well, if that's who you are, then that's fine then. You know what I mean? Like, that's what. That's the problem. That's the thing that Ellen was. Was kind of feel raked over the coals. And she obviously doesn't. She. No mesh, no attempt at an apology. In fact, the whole thing was how I. I'm a strong woman. I'm this. Like, I'm not gonna stand there and apologize. [00:18:17] Speaker A: It actually ramps up towards the opposite of an apology. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:20] Speaker A: All the way to the end. It's more of a you to everybody. It is actually even, you know. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:27] Speaker A: Question. [00:18:27] Speaker B: I mean, I almost vomited on the I'm a strong woman standing ovation. Oh, my God. [00:18:34] Speaker A: Are we at the end now? [00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, because I was just talking about the hypocrisy because it's like. And she does this whole thing. She did this big speech. I don't care what you think of me. But then you programmed in applause breaks with virtue signaling. So you do care because you've go back and forth with that, the whole. [00:18:53] Speaker A: The whole act about how she doesn't care. She does care. From the Botox bit to the. Did you see this one, Christian? [00:19:00] Speaker C: The. The special? Yeah, I saw it, but I saw it a long time ago, so I don't remember a lot of it, but I had the same idea as Mark, though, going into it, you know, I really wanted to, like, kind of when it all came out, that she was, you know, such a tyrant. It's one of those. I actually just kind of was thinking, well, maybe that's just how she found success. And I was watching it, really wanted to like her again. And it did the opposite. Or not not like her again. I actually did. I didn't stop liking her. This made me not like her. [00:19:32] Speaker A: And see, I'm watching her in this, and I'm appreciating her chops, her comedy chops. [00:19:42] Speaker B: She's top five. She's such a good goddamn comedian. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Right? And so I'm appreciating that. And the jokes are great. And I think she did a really good job of, you know, like, saying, like, I got kicked out of Hollywood for being mean. Right. Or whatever it's like. Or for being gay. Right. Like, everyone in Hollywood's mean. Everybody's gay. Right. [00:20:03] Speaker B: Like, she actually makes that point. [00:20:05] Speaker A: And she makes. She. I think she just weaves it so well and delivers it so well. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:10] Speaker A: But then as she ramps up what you're calling virtue signaling, and then, you know, I am woman, hear me roar type of thing, like, to the end, and screw everybody if they don't. It's like. And. And the. The way it ends. If you want to go to that. [00:20:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. God. [00:20:24] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, and so by the end, Christian, I. Now I hate her again. Like, I hated her coming in. I'm like, fuck this. She's good, right? Like, we forgot what a great comedian she is. And she's taking this and making it funny and weaving it in all different ways. And then. But by the time we got to the end of this hour, plus, I'm like, fuck her. I hate her. [00:20:47] Speaker B: The roller coaster ride. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I hate her. [00:20:51] Speaker C: Is this the same special. I was trying to look it up just now, but is this the same one where she has the photos of herself on vacation and she's talking about when they were out in the rainforest? [00:21:01] Speaker B: No, I don't know. [00:21:02] Speaker C: That wasn't in this one. Okay, well, then there was a different one that made me not like her. [00:21:07] Speaker A: Okay. [00:21:09] Speaker B: It's a roller coaster with Ellen. I mean. Yeah. That. The ending of it 1. God, there was so many good jokes in it. [00:21:18] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:21:18] Speaker B: Such a good comedian. [00:21:21] Speaker A: She really is. [00:21:22] Speaker B: It is unbelievable. Even she. She even got laughs about, like, her mom having dementia. I can't just try to remember the joke now, but you know what I mean? Like, taking a subject like that, which you probably like, for fans of her would be the age where they're like, oh, my God, I don't even want to think about this. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:44] Speaker B: And she just kills it. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Her stuff on aging. Great. Like. Yeah. Her material is great. It's great. [00:21:52] Speaker B: You never see a woman playing air guitar, like, or with the one that. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Was after that, too, was great. You never see a woman, like, try to run and jump and touch the top of a door frame. Yeah, that was fucking brilliant. [00:22:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:05] Speaker A: I mean, that's amazing. [00:22:06] Speaker B: Yeah. So good. [00:22:08] Speaker A: But then you get to the end, and you can't believe she's doing this at the end. Right. Where she brings out her wife. [00:22:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Again, for more. Just like, cheap applause, standing ovation, like, you don't need this. [00:22:22] Speaker A: But then for her to say, give this choice. Right. Do I want to go down as being remembered for being mean? And I'm thinking, well, no. Right. But the other side of that would be for being nice. And she doesn't use the word nice or anything. Like that or kind of. It's. Do I be remembered for being mean or beloved? [00:22:46] Speaker B: Beloved. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Like I want to be remembered for every. I want to be remembered for everybody loving me. Right. Like fuck. Did you realize you use that word? You know what that word means, right? Like, I was really turned off. [00:23:01] Speaker B: I think, I think you posed the question like, you know, how did she make it if she is this mean person or whatever. But I hate to say this as someone who like, produces comedy, so, like, how much crap I am willing to put up with from someone is tied to their ability in some ways. Like there's a comedian who kind of started out in Chicago and has moved now. I'm not going to say a name. And everyone hates Adam Crosby. Everyone hates this comedian. Notorious. Just a completely misanthropic person. And just, you know, most people in Chicago have just said, enough's enough. Right. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Mouth the name to me so I can really. [00:23:53] Speaker B: No, because then you'll blab it. But this comedian is so good. Did it several times I've gone, do I put up with this or not? And I'm like, no, this comedian should be heard. Is a awesome comedian. The sort of comedian that needs to be on stages. I'll roll with it. I will put up with the. And you know, that's probably not a good human quality, as a lot of people would say. Right. But. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Well, I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Right. [00:24:31] Speaker B: I mean, God, if, If I put up just comedians I liked. Yes. It's 12 minute show every week. [00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah, right, right. I mean, if you only put up good musicians. Right. There were good people, right? [00:24:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a whole problem with this. Separate the art. Oh, you can't separate the art from the artist. [00:24:52] Speaker A: You can, you can, but personally, you can't always depending on what is. Like, I love the band Arcade Fire for the longest time, but when I heard what the. The lead singer did, right. And how he's praying on all these young fans and shit. [00:25:06] Speaker B: You have to. [00:25:07] Speaker A: Then I couldn't listen to the music anymore. Not that I'm this. I. I just. All I could think about was this guy and what a dick he is, you know, And I just. And I stopped listening to the music and that. Yeah. So. And now I don't listen to any Bill Cosby records either. Right. They're not. I don't put them on my turntable. I just leave them on the shelf. I won't listen to them. [00:25:29] Speaker B: You're never, ever, ever stopping me Watching Woody Allen movies, I'll tell you that much. You have to pry the. The iPad away from. I don't have an iPad. I don't even know why I said that. [00:25:41] Speaker A: So what. What we've learned today is that Mark Geary condones both incest and statutory rape. Right? I mean, if you're fine with Woody Allen, you think he's. His art is worthy of overlooking incest and statute. No, I'm kidding. Could shout it four times, though. Incest. [00:26:06] Speaker B: Keep saying it until it's funny, because it's like. Like, to me, the most. One of the most beautiful. There's two of the most beautiful film endings I've ever seen were Woody Allen's. Which ones? No, actually, not that one. The. There's the ending to Sweet and Lowdown, which is like Sean Penn. And he just. He basically. Basically treats Samantha. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Django. Something he plays, right? [00:26:33] Speaker B: No, no, that's. Django is. Reinhardt is the real guitarist who he says is the greatest. I'm the second best guitarist ever. He is. But he basically. Samantha Morton plays this, like, mute girl who. All the way through, and he's really bad to her and everything. And then in the end, he crawls back to her, and she has gotten married and got a kid. And then the final line of the film is Sean Penn just going, I was wrong. I made a mistake. Like realizing. Jesus Christ, begging her to come back. You know, he's gone off with some other floozy at this point. A genius ending to a film. And then Broadway. I. I always bring up Broadway Danny Rose because it's probably top three Woody for me, because I. I equate myself with Danny Rose. And there's a. Do you remember the ending of that? So Broadway Danny Rose. Danny Rose is this agent and like, everyone good, who. He makes him over and leaves him, right? And he makes this guy famous again. Mia Farrow's in that film. Interesting enough. So there you go. And so Woody's always stuck with these people. And he has, like, a Thanksgiving dinner for all his acts that he represents. And there's like, you know, a parrot that sings and a guy who plays xylophone really bad. [00:27:56] Speaker A: This is just like the movie Sandy Wexler. Have you seen that? Sandler's movie about the agent? He's basically doing that. [00:28:01] Speaker B: But anyway, the ending of the film is, you know, Mia Farrow comes round and basically, like, ditches him and says, you know, I'm going off with the guy who you made famous, and blah, blah, blah, and leaves Woody stuck with this. You Know abysmal music hall variety acts that he represents eating TV dinners for Thanksgiving. And I just. I find that utterly beautiful. But mainly because I equate myself to it. [00:28:28] Speaker A: But because you love TV dinners, right? [00:28:31] Speaker B: No, I just. I won't even go there. [00:28:37] Speaker A: Anyway, when's the last time you had a TV dinner? [00:28:39] Speaker B: Oh, God, 20 years. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Oh, really? You're living high up the hog. I guess now. [00:28:44] Speaker B: I used to like them when I first come to America. You don't. Do. You don't eat filth in England. You know what I mean? And like, I always wondered what they were in American movies. [00:28:53] Speaker A: They didn't have TV dinners over there. [00:28:56] Speaker B: No. And I was. When I came to America. Oh, that's an American thing. I'll have one of them dinner. Yeah. [00:29:03] Speaker A: Yeah. It's a sad. It's sad. If you're eating a TV dinner, they. [00:29:08] Speaker B: Should have a little. One of the little things should be what you cry into. [00:29:13] Speaker A: Like an empty one. [00:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah, just an empty one. This is where your tears go. [00:29:18] Speaker A: That's a good bit. [00:29:20] Speaker B: Hey, what's the thing? [00:29:22] Speaker A: That's a good one. Do you know why they call them TV dinners? [00:29:28] Speaker B: There's a guy on satellite radio explains how they were invented. They were invented specifically to sell TVs, because you could sit and watch TV with one. [00:29:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Back then here, you know, people were eating a lot of them. And most living rooms had in them this thing that would hold the. The stands that you'd pull in front of you to watch TV with. [00:29:53] Speaker B: See. See them in thrift stores? [00:29:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Those are great. [00:29:57] Speaker B: I got one actually. You should have. Was LA Rams. But I bought it when the TV tray. Yeah. With legs. Yeah. You slide it under. But I bought it when they were defunct, you know? [00:30:12] Speaker A: You know, so before the la Rams, then St. Louis Rams, and then LA Rams again. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah. But they were gone. Yeah. [00:30:17] Speaker A: They weren't making TV trays for the new LA Rams. [00:30:20] Speaker B: Right. But this is from defunct. And I also had a Houston Oilers one that this guy bought. I sold that on Craigslist because, like, oh, this is hot. This is hot. There's a whole. [00:30:31] Speaker A: You're collecting TV trays with NFL teams for a while. [00:30:34] Speaker B: No, no, no. I. I just found it at a garage sale. And I'm fascinated by. By defunct teams. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:41] Speaker B: There's something fascinating about it. [00:30:43] Speaker A: The merchandise of defunct teams. You're always on the lookout for those. Hey, when are you going to take me out to the flea market? I know you take Nolan out there. Take me. [00:30:51] Speaker B: I don't begin till May I want to say. [00:30:54] Speaker A: Oh, they don't start. Yeah, it's too cold. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I used to find defunct uniforms and give them to you, didn't I? [00:31:03] Speaker A: Maybe. [00:31:03] Speaker B: I don't remember, like, you know, the. The not defunct. Like. Yeah, you had this weird energy of like, oh, this obscure basketball player that no one else knows. [00:31:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:31:17] Speaker B: He's my favorite. [00:31:18] Speaker A: Back then. Yeah. It was all about collecting those old jerseys. I used to have stacks of jerseys of players who had committed crimes and murdered. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:26] Speaker A: They would end up in the thrift store and nobody would touch them. [00:31:29] Speaker B: Who is it? Mark Chimera. [00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:31] Speaker B: He wanted one of him. [00:31:33] Speaker A: And I didn't want. No, no, no, no. I didn't want these. I didn't want Mark Tremors jersey. You did, you statutory rapist. I did not want it. [00:31:42] Speaker B: You sourced it. You said, if you see a Chimera, I want it. And I was like, I'm pretty sure all that. You know, what we should have collected. Holy shit. Do you remember when the Bulls would win and they would do the. The. What do you call it? Like, what do you call the guy who just draws faces on the boardwalk characteristics? And they would always do a caricature of all the Bulls team. [00:32:05] Speaker A: Yeah. The big heads. [00:32:06] Speaker B: Yeah. And just, you know, and it would be the big ones. And if you had collect. Collected them from the thrift stores, you'd be sitting on a goddamn gold mine. Right. Of. Of the caricature Bulls. [00:32:21] Speaker A: Oh, those shirts. [00:32:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:32:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, those. Yeah. You know, those are top dollar. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:32:26] Speaker B: And there were millions of them. Oh. [00:32:28] Speaker A: But, yeah, now. Now people got wise to them. [00:32:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:31] Speaker A: You don't see them anymore. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Which has a lot to do with Ellen. [00:32:34] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. Well, I think we've. You know, I have so much more to say, but. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Say it. [00:32:44] Speaker A: Let's, let's, let's. Let's do a summary here of what we learned today. [00:32:50] Speaker B: One legged or legged? [00:32:52] Speaker A: Yeah, one legged. I was going to say beloved. Beloved. Or did she do that? She do beloved or beloved? [00:33:00] Speaker B: No. [00:33:01] Speaker A: She should have. [00:33:02] Speaker B: She might have tied it. [00:33:03] Speaker A: She might have. Yeah. So, okay, so I would say this great comedian, great writer, but undeniable because she never apologized. And if I've learned anything in life, it's you should apologize even when you don't feel like you should apologize. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Did my missus tell you to say that to me? [00:33:29] Speaker A: No. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Pointedly? [00:33:31] Speaker A: No. [00:33:32] Speaker B: All right. [00:33:35] Speaker A: But I'd like to learn more about your marital strike. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Okay. So opinions on it? Pretty much the same. Like the best. Top three comedy immaculate. [00:33:48] Speaker A: You're saying Ellen DeGeneres is top three comedians of all time. [00:33:53] Speaker B: That's a figurative thing. I mean, she. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Top three comedians working today. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Top three American comedians. I'll say that. [00:34:01] Speaker A: Who's. Who's ahead of her or around her? [00:34:04] Speaker B: Who's around? [00:34:05] Speaker A: Can't just say top three. [00:34:06] Speaker B: And not Bill Hicks and. Yeah, I know. We'll get into that later. [00:34:11] Speaker A: What, is he alive? [00:34:13] Speaker B: No, he died years ago. [00:34:15] Speaker A: Working today. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Working today. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Are you saying of all time, living or dead, Ellen DeGeneres is three on a list. Bill Hicks is number one, probably. Good God. Who's to shecky American? [00:34:30] Speaker B: Well, let me think about it more. We'll do it in program. We'll do a top five show. How about that? [00:34:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I like that. [00:34:37] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. On this particular post performance, so much greatness in it and then so much badness. What do you do? [00:34:48] Speaker A: Because the jokes are great, but then she reveals her nature at the end of the program, which is. She's a horrible person. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Well, it's bubbling all the way through, but. [00:34:57] Speaker A: All right. Well, this concludes our Oscars. [00:35:00] Speaker B: I mean, what are we, thumbs sideways at this point? [00:35:05] Speaker A: No, I'm giving her a thumb toe up. Towing her up. [00:35:09] Speaker B: You're still upping on it. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Yes, because we're. We're here to judge the comedy, not the person. Right. [00:35:16] Speaker B: All right. [00:35:16] Speaker A: And her last clip, her last bit or whatever you want to call it, the end was horrendous. She shouldn't have done it. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:22] Speaker A: It reveals herself as a person. But those jokes for that first hour, it was a tour de force. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Yep. [00:35:29] Speaker A: Of comedy writing. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Yep. I'm up as well then. If we remove that last bit. Well, up. [00:35:35] Speaker A: But we hate her as a person. [00:35:37] Speaker B: No, I still. I'm neutral. [00:35:38] Speaker A: Mind her. Cuz you. [00:35:39] Speaker B: You like bullying. [00:35:40] Speaker A: You like bullying. [00:35:41] Speaker B: I don't really care what someone's like. And maybe she's driven. Maybe she's a perfectionist. You know what I mean? Some different people. What does mean mean? [00:35:53] Speaker A: Yeah, well, we dig in some of the stories. [00:35:57] Speaker B: I mean, she jabbing a compass in people's arms and stuff. [00:36:00] Speaker A: No, just mean. I don't like mean. I don't like people that are mean. [00:36:06] Speaker B: I don't mind them so much. [00:36:08] Speaker A: All right, well, that concludes this edition. Tune in next week when we. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Review overweight comedians or a series on overweight comedians. We're gonna be doing Louie Anderson and Gabrielle Iglesias and John Panette. You don't know any of these people. [00:36:32] Speaker B: Well, I know them all. [00:36:33] Speaker A: You know, John Panett. [00:36:36] Speaker B: They haven't had specials out in the last year, Six feet under. [00:36:43] Speaker A: And then next the following week, comedians that are six feet under. And then we'll follow that up with. Because it'll be sweeps week. Comedians that have committed sexual crimes. All right with that. All right. Good night.