Review: Local Act, Maria Bamford

[00:00:08] Speaker A: All right. [00:00:11] Speaker B: Welcome to Don't Make Me Laugh. Or do Make Me Laugh. You don't make me laugh. What is it? What the hell is the name of the show? [00:00:20] Speaker A: Can you remember what it was? [00:00:21] Speaker B: Yeah, Don't Make Me Laugh. Like, oh, don't make me laugh. It's like that. It's like. [00:00:25] Speaker A: I thought the don't wasn't there. I thought it was just Make Me Laugh. [00:00:28] Speaker B: Well, isn't there a show called Make Me Laugh? Yeah, there is. Where you try to break somebody up. Or it's. It's a bit somewhere where you try to make somebody stone facing you try to make them laugh. No, no. Anyway, this is don't make Me Laugh. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Like don't make me laugh. [00:00:43] Speaker B: Don't make me laugh. Or you don't make me laugh. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah, right. That's the subtext. [00:00:49] Speaker B: Or you don't bring me flowers. [00:00:51] Speaker A: I like that song. [00:00:53] Speaker B: I love that whole album. I love Neil Diamond. Is he dead? [00:00:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's review Neil diamond, this episode. What was his last special? [00:01:02] Speaker B: I don't know. I think he's got a palsy of some kind now. He's not doing well. But he's alive, I believe. Yeah, he's on the bucket list. And now Bob Dylan's on the bucket list. I gotta see him. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Holy shit. [00:01:15] Speaker B: All right, well, I just want to say to anyone, to Heather, who's listening. [00:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah, to the one person listening. [00:01:22] Speaker B: Has this been released, this program? [00:01:24] Speaker A: No, I'm chewing a few up. And then we'll release them, like, as if they were being done. [00:01:29] Speaker B: Okay. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Week by week. [00:01:30] Speaker B: But I want to say to anyone listening, Heather especially, she probably already knows this. She's probably already prescribed this. Mark has a urinary tract infection. I'm guessing because you're drinking cranberry juice. [00:01:43] Speaker A: No, I'm just trying to stay off the pop. I feel like I'm due a cardiac episode and like, cranberry. I don't know. [00:01:51] Speaker B: Is that straight? Is that cranberry? Cranberry? [00:01:54] Speaker A: No, it's got some water. [00:01:56] Speaker B: Cut it with a little water. Okay, so you got a urinary. Don't be ashamed of that. [00:02:01] Speaker A: I'm not. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Older people do get older. Men do get them. My father got quite a. Quite a few of them before his demise. [00:02:07] Speaker A: I thought old men had a problem with their. [00:02:10] Speaker B: They do. They do. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Because I've had a camera up mine. [00:02:12] Speaker B: You have? [00:02:13] Speaker A: We'll go through that in another episode. [00:02:16] Speaker B: Well, do you. Are you up at night going to the bathroom? How many times? [00:02:19] Speaker A: No, because I have a strict curfew. 8 o'clock, no liquids after it. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Okay, so you're like a three year old. [00:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And obviously whatever it is is shrinking rapidly to the point where it's like. [00:02:33] Speaker B: Yeah, you have an enlarged prostate, I believe. Or you have a crooked urethra, perhaps. What did the camera show? Well, we don't have to get into that. [00:02:43] Speaker A: Camera showed nothing that was clean. There's a whole episode in there. [00:02:47] Speaker B: Has to be a lot of fish and chips up there. Remnants of that, like gristle from all the fish and chips you eat every fucking day. [00:02:54] Speaker A: It reminds me of that joke, you know, the guy goes, love the person. Goes to the thing, to the doctor, and the doctor and he's like, oh, there's something stuck on my ass. And the doctor roost around it, pulls out some flowers. I guess it's a bunch of flowers. And the person goes, well, don't mess around. Who are they from? Someone should use that in their special. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah, well, if we watch enough of these, we're probably gonna come across a lot of stolen bits. [00:03:21] Speaker A: All right, well, we're gonna cut out this last six minutes, so let's keep. [00:03:24] Speaker B: Why? [00:03:25] Speaker A: No. [00:03:25] Speaker B: So I think. I think the show should. Should have this. This has to be part of the show. You and I, in our repartee. [00:03:32] Speaker A: Okay. [00:03:33] Speaker B: All right. We could. You know, we don't really talk much outside of this, so I want to know what's going. Yeah. Besides trading insults. [00:03:40] Speaker A: I'm texting expletives at each other. Yeah. [00:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, just before this, I was hungry and I ran across the street to get a sandwich, and I asked you if you wanted anything. You said, no, and then I asked Christian. [00:03:55] Speaker A: I forgot to say thank you, Heather, No. Yeah, I'll get told off. [00:03:58] Speaker B: And then I was like, okay, you want a cup of coffee? Like, you know, just to double down on that offer. Maybe you do want something, but you don't feel comfortable asking me because, you know. And you got mad. You were like, what? Fuck no. I said no. You know, come on. I'm being kind to you. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:14] Speaker B: You don't know. I feel that you don't know how to receive kindness. [00:04:18] Speaker A: No, I don't. It makes me deeply uncomfortable. [00:04:21] Speaker B: Yes. What about physical intimacy? Can we get into that with you? [00:04:26] Speaker A: Talking of deeply uncomfortable, why don't we talk about the Marine? [00:04:29] Speaker B: All right. She seems like someone who also might have. I cannot picture her making love to that man that is her husband. [00:04:37] Speaker A: Oh, I know. This is awful. [00:04:40] Speaker B: They mustn't have children because these two could not have sex. [00:04:43] Speaker A: Well, if you'd Watch the special all the way through. [00:04:45] Speaker B: You know, I did watch it. [00:04:47] Speaker A: You. Then you know, she can't have children anymore. [00:04:49] Speaker B: I don't know what's a bit. What's, you know, you know, she had her uterus. [00:04:52] Speaker A: I don't think she. I don't think she makes shit up. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Maybe I even missed that bit. Because the way she delivers her material and we talked about this last episode is there's no breath. It goes from one bit, one stream of consciousness to the next. It's like reading Ulysses. [00:05:11] Speaker A: It's so I had to. You know, I fucked up and I didn't watch the right one. So now I did two Bamfords in a week. And my brain is. Is reeling from it because she is so good. But it's like, you better be tuned in because she's coming at you a mile a minute. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:05:31] Speaker A: And every line she. She has is like a gem that you don't want to miss. I'm like, I don't want to miss any of this, but I can't keep up with it. [00:05:39] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. I. First off, I thought I knew who Maria Bamford was. Remember from what I thought she was someone. I thought Maria Bamford was somebody else, because I think it's Patton Oswalt, always comedians or comedy talks about Maria Bamford. He loves her, and I love Patton Oswalt. And so for some reason, I thought Maria Bamford was Natasha Leggero. I don't know why, but that's who I thought I was going to see when I turned on the tv. And needless to say, I was disappointed just from. I find Natasha Leggero attractive, you know, and not to say Maria Bamford isn't. [00:06:20] Speaker A: But Natasha Leggero stayed in our bedroom. [00:06:23] Speaker B: What? You're shitting. [00:06:25] Speaker A: No. When she came to do the Lincoln Lodge. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Oh, can I have the sheets? Did you snip the sheets? [00:06:31] Speaker A: No, I did not. So she came to do the Lincoln Lodge because. Brent, when was this? [00:06:36] Speaker B: Give me context. 1987. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Oh, I want to say late 90s. She came to do the lodge because Brent Weinbach pulled out and got her to come in place. And so I'm already angry. I'm like, God damn. Like, this is some. You know what I mean? And then I look up Natasha Legera and I'm like, oh, God, she's gonna be unpleasant. Like, because she's attractive. No, no, because of how she has her comedy is very kind of snippy, very sarcastic. And I thought, oh, she's probably not going to be, you know, Very nice. And I think I. I checked with Brido, my guy in la, and I'm. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Like, is this unfamiliar? [00:07:14] Speaker A: Is this a bad thing? He's like, no, no, like the hipsters lover and all this stuff you're gonna like. And I was really. I like to build walls and set myself up as, like, not liking people. It's better that way. [00:07:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:27] Speaker A: She comes and she is the nicest person you've ever met. And like, I say to her, oh, we assume you're gonna do like 30 minutes. And she just looks at me and she goes, I really don. 15, but I'll like, give it a try. Yeah, yeah. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Where was she at in her career at this point? [00:07:45] Speaker A: Like really, really, really early. Like, we, you know, had to work our asses off to get anyone to it and why don't you call me? [00:07:53] Speaker B: I would have come right over. [00:07:55] Speaker A: I didn't know you liked her so much. But anyway, she goes up on stage and she's really good, really nice. And then the funny thing is, you know, she's kind of glammy. She was very glamorous. I always used to take visiting comedians that were staying at our house to Taco Burrito on Urban Park. The one on Irving Park. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:14] Speaker A: You'd be more specific, like kind of between. I want to say western and. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Okay, so no, I know. In that strip mall. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah, in the strip mall, yeah. Because Taco Burrito, good food. But they also had this amazing picture on the wall and it's like this hot Latino woman on a p leaning on a piano with a panther on the piano. Like, can you imagine it? Panther on piano, hot Latino woman on it. So I used to take the comedians just to show them that, like, see, this is. This is class. And then have some good Mexican food again, I can't do that anymore because I can't. I have a drinking cut off of 8 o'clock and an eating cut off. [00:08:56] Speaker B: What does that do to you? You get the runs or something? If you. [00:08:59] Speaker A: No, I just get what you call it, like, indigestion and stuff like that. I should probably go for a walk after meals. That really helps. But anyway, so I don' do that anymore. But yeah, Natasha Leggero, she. [00:09:11] Speaker B: So I didn't realize that your home has become the comedy condo. It's the comedy condo, yeah. Was she with the rabbits? Did she get down there? She's in the rabbit room. [00:09:20] Speaker A: But the rabbits, they're long departed. There's just a picture on the wall. [00:09:24] Speaker B: I see now we. I would love to get her here to talk about staying in the rabbit room. [00:09:30] Speaker A: She. She still actually returns emails. Like, I email her and be like, well, no, she, I tell, like, she was returning emails, like, pretty far up there. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Like, I remember one time turning on New Year's Eve, New Year's Eve, you know, from Square or whatever, and she was one of the hosts. And I'm like, I go to Heather, I'm like, I don't know who one wasn't. [00:09:55] Speaker B: Dick Clark. [00:09:56] Speaker A: No. But I say to Heather, this is amazing. Here's this woman hosting New Year's Eve. She stayed in our guest room. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Like, was Heather impressed? [00:10:07] Speaker A: She's never impressed by. Come. You know what? Heather's never impressed by comedians. But she likes the old farts. Yeah, she loves them. [00:10:14] Speaker B: We're the OGs. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Yeah, but she's too grounded. All right, well, so Bamford wasn't who you said. [00:10:21] Speaker B: Hold on. Send her an email, Leggero, and tell her to come on. And she'll get a glowing review. Whatever her special is, we'll review it and. Because I'm going to give her a glowing review without even having seen it. [00:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I'll say. You never know, I might get a response. She's very good, though. Anyway. [00:10:37] Speaker B: All right, all right. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Not who you expect. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Why did you choose this comedienne? Would we. Can we say comedienne or we have to say comedian? [00:10:46] Speaker A: Say comedian. I'm not fighting that. Trump's back. [00:10:51] Speaker B: So we can say comedienne again. An actress. [00:10:54] Speaker A: We can say all sorts of evil things and be like, no. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Locker room talk is back. [00:10:59] Speaker A: Locker room. Yeah, locker room. We're back. We should call this the home team locker room. [00:11:03] Speaker B: How about visitors locker room? Yeah, yeah. Home team locker room. Yeah. Shout out to Nate Craig. [00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:10] Speaker B: How was that pro? Anyway. Go ahead. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Anyway, Maria Bamford is one of my all time favorites. God, she's so. She's like on another level, but it's almost like, like, so, you know, I accidentally watched an older special, but in the week thinking it was the newer one. That one was a solid gold masterpiece. Right. But I felt bruised by the end of it. I'm like. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Because you would laugh so hard. [00:11:39] Speaker A: I laugh so hard. But it's, it's like work. You know what I mean? It's work. It was exhausting to watch and like mental heart. It's like, you know, you can read like a shitty, you know, beach novel they call them, right? Oh, yeah, this, this thing happens. Blah, blah. And then every now and again you go, you know what? I really should tackle a classic Just. Just to stretch myself a little bit. And I feel like Maria Bamford comedy specials are saying, all right, I've had enough of this trite, like, middle of the road stuff. I'm going to try and handle a classic. [00:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:15] Speaker A: And that's what it is. Because. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Well, don't say classic, because I don't think that describes her as a classic. A classic would be a classical comedian, which I wouldn't say she is. I'd say she's very difficult. Like, you know, she's advanced literature, if that's the description. Right. It's work to take it all in. But I would say she's classic. I'd say she's more alternative. New age isn't the right word, but she. Her delivery and her bits. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Oh, no, I don't mean she commented. [00:12:54] Speaker B: In a non classical way. [00:12:55] Speaker A: No, I don't mean she's like Dangerfield. I mean she's higher quality. Like. Like when. When time advances on and. And the dross kind of is forgotten about dross. She is going to be. People are going to say that was a comedian. That was someone who understood comedy and delivered something better than. Better than most. I'm sensing a bit of hate here. So I want to let you let the hate pour. [00:13:26] Speaker B: I'm not gonna. No, I, you know, I don't want this. I don't want this to be that. Right. Like, I don't want to hate on people. Right. Because. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Or the critique. Deal with the critique. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Because first of all, it was crazy that you watched the wrong one because I reached out to you to say, which one is it? And then you respond back with the one we were supposed to watch. And then moments after that, you went and watched the wrong one. Anyway, whatever. [00:13:58] Speaker A: I blame the Roku menu system because I definitely clicked definitely now. I should have realized because the title said the wrong name. [00:14:06] Speaker B: But anyway, why did you choose this one? Because it was the most recent. [00:14:09] Speaker A: That's just the most recent. [00:14:11] Speaker B: First of all, I loved as it starts. I'm loving it because the room is as small as could possibly be. [00:14:17] Speaker A: I knew you would love it. I'm like, O'Donnell's gonna love this. [00:14:21] Speaker B: Cause that's Red lion. That was the four trays. You can get maybe 15 people in there and they're shoulder to shoulder. [00:14:29] Speaker A: See the whites? Their eyes. Yes. There's no running from your failure. Success. [00:14:34] Speaker B: No. And as you watch her, you see those people stage left or right, wherever you're looking. Right. That you're seeing them the whole time. So you're seeing Them react the whole time. And how about the two guys that seem to like her? And then the girl in the middle couldn't have been more miserable. Did you see her? I couldn't stop watching her. [00:14:51] Speaker A: I saw her. Yeah. I'm like, wow. [00:14:52] Speaker B: She was looking at her phone. She's. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Because it seemed like a carefully curated parade of hipsters in there, Right. I didn't see anyone. I'm like, okay, these are people who are going to like. I could tell. But then right in the middle of it, is that that sore thumb just sitting there, like. [00:15:09] Speaker B: Yeah. But then I thought more about it. I thought, well, maybe that's intentional. She's got to know this woman is miserable on camera for the entirety of her special. Right? Right. [00:15:19] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Is it that meta? I don't know. But. So I had never seen her. Right. I mean, I'm sure I maybe have seen her in passing, but I didn't know what I was getting. And, yeah, it was like. I don't. It was late at night, you know, before I went to bed. I was like, let me throw this on and watch this. And it was. And I was like, oh, geez. I don't. You know, you have to be in the mood, I think, for comedy. Right. Regardless of what kind of comedy. And maybe I wasn't in the mood, but I was not laughing. Nothing made me laugh. I appreciated. Right. We talked about that last time. Does it matter? Does a comedian have to make you laugh? Like, I didn't laugh that much at Bargazza either, but I appreciated him. I didn't laugh at her at all, really, but I appreciated her a couple times. A couple Geary snorts. I gave it. But I wasn't exhausted from laughing like you. [00:16:10] Speaker A: It's a wheeze. [00:16:10] Speaker B: Whatever. Yeah, wheeze. [00:16:14] Speaker A: Okay, so let me. If you didn't laugh. I know I can't laugh. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Like you said, like, if you. If you don't give the pauses, if you don't deliver it in the right rhythm or whatever, you can't laugh. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Just relentless. [00:16:27] Speaker B: Right? So I think I might have laughed if it was given to me differently. [00:16:33] Speaker A: I mean, what about the Harvard. Like, to me, the high point of it was the Harvard bit where they tried to induct her. [00:16:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was good. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Whole bizarre thing about to go. I thought that would appeal to you because she wanted to go to an open mic instead of being at Harvard. And. [00:16:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:49] Speaker A: And I was like. And you probably hate Harvard because you're. You're a. What are you? A Southie. You're chowder head. No, I'm from there, yeah. [00:16:57] Speaker B: I'm from Boston, but I'm not from Southie. You'd be able to tell if I was from South? [00:17:02] Speaker A: Why? [00:17:03] Speaker B: I'd have a whole different. Yeah, no, I'd have a different. [00:17:07] Speaker A: The Harvard thing I thought would get you. [00:17:09] Speaker B: That was a good bit. But again, like, it took me a while to understand what the hell she was even talking about. Right? Because. [00:17:14] Speaker A: Yes. [00:17:14] Speaker B: The way she gets into a bit. [00:17:16] Speaker A: It'S like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Where are we here? And that's where I felt like the whole time. Where are we in the last bit? Are we in the next bit? Are we in the bit? I don't know. You know, maybe I'm just not bright. Maybe. Maybe that's it too. Like, sometimes comedians, sometimes literature, whatever. Movies are over our heads, right? Or, you know, if I have a low iq, right. Maybe I can't get it. [00:17:37] Speaker A: I don't think it's that. I think it's all, like you were saying, content delivery. Because like I say, I accidentally watched the previous one, and between that one and this one, both her parents passed away. Okay. And she's. The bits. She does about. I'm gonna miss her talking about her mom if she, like, stops doing it. Because when she talks about her mom, it's like another let. Like, she. She does the voice and everything. And. And I was like, this has gotta. Because I knew going in, like. Because I was, you know, looking in the Wiki. I'm like, oh, this one's gonna be probably a bruiser. Both parents, like, you know, between specials. Come on. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Yeah. It wasn't that maudlin, though, right? I mean, it didn't. She doesn't go dark about it too much. I mean, a little bit. There's some. I can't. I don't have all the lines in front of me, which you talked about. But she didn't get too dark with it, right? Make the audience uncomfortable with. With that. As I'm. You know what? As I'm looking at. At the things I wrote down, I'm looking at some of these lines and these. I didn't write down bits. As many. As much as lines. Like, some of these lines are great, right? Like Fecal Ropes. That was amazing. I don't even remember. I couldn't repeat the bit. But when she said she got Dan browned at the end when somebody put a Dan Brown book in her little lap, like, that shit is great. Like, I'm laughing more now talking about it than I could When I was watching it, you know what I mean? [00:19:08] Speaker A: Like, our opening line I wrote down was, Was it like, don't worry, I won't fall into fascism? [00:19:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:14] Speaker A: And that was the first line. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:19:16] Speaker A: And then a couple of lines I wrote down. So she, I'm paraphrasing here, she did this whole bit making fun of 12 step groups. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:27] Speaker A: And they said, they said, maria, you can't make fun of the 12 step groups. And she says something like, why be alive except to make fun of the things that are important to you? [00:19:37] Speaker B: I have that written down verbatim. Why else be alive other than to make fun of the things? Yeah. So she's got some. She's brilliant. She's absolutely brilliant. Right. [00:19:47] Speaker A: Only if she was an album, you could play her at 33 instead. [00:19:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. You could get it better. That's, that's really what I'm, I'm getting at. Like, you can appreciate or understand somebody's brilliant and they're great and these, the writing's amazing, but, you know, like, if it was delivered differently, right, you would maybe enjoy it more like it. [00:20:05] Speaker A: I, I, maybe we should call Nate Bargazi and Maria Bamford and say, hey, here's an experiment. We want Nate to do your set. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in the car with my daughter the other day and there was an Arctic Monkey song that she likes. You know, there's. [00:20:21] Speaker A: I thought you had all lads. [00:20:22] Speaker B: What? No, I got a, I got. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I got a girl. Yeah. [00:20:25] Speaker A: I thought you had about eight. [00:20:26] Speaker B: I got three lads. Alas. One last three lads. Yeah. [00:20:31] Speaker A: Was the last laugh last? Last, long last. [00:20:34] Speaker B: The last was third in the queue. Third, yeah. Thank God. Anyway. And she's playing this Arctic Monkey song. I don't remember the name. It was their popular one on their first album. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Oh, he talks really fast. Alex. What's his name? [00:20:49] Speaker B: But it was sung by someone who was basically just speaking it slowly. It was a new version of that, Right. And it's a totally different song. Right. And I was like, I like this song, but I like the old, the original version better. Right. Like, I think you could take to your point, take somebody's material, put it at 33, or maybe put it at 45. Right. And enjoy it a lot more. Right. Depending on what you like. Yeah. [00:21:13] Speaker A: That was definitely it with this one. It was, it was bruising. It was too fast. I love the little end. Oh, and I know. So the thing that I thought I kept writing down, O'Donnell might like this because I thought as it Was starting the. The novelty ending where she turns it into an open mic. Yeah, you would. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Okay. So I wrote this down too, because I wanted to talk about this. Right. Like, these people had prepared for this. Right? They. There's no way you could pull people out of the crowd if you did that tonight. Right. [00:21:49] Speaker A: That ruined it a little bit. [00:21:50] Speaker B: You could tell they had been prep to like bring some material. Right. They had to. [00:21:55] Speaker A: I wonder where the crowd came from, because it seemed like handpicked hipsters. [00:22:00] Speaker B: Yeah, well, yeah. And then it, you know, if you keep watching past the credits, you know, she's. They do the pizza. It's like a. It's a whole get together thing, which I thought was cute. I thought that was awesome, you know? [00:22:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was a good. It was a good lead in. [00:22:13] Speaker B: You know what? You know what else I thought too? I wonder if this place is still there. It was in Altadena, right where all those fires were. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Well, she posted on social media this week that they need a new studio or something, so. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:31] Speaker A: Displaced. [00:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:32] Speaker A: They're not burnt down, so. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know how many of these bits you want to go through, but looking at it now, it's like, oh, my God, that's amazing. And as I wrote these down, I was just like her whole bit with the Richard Scarry book. Right. I don't know if you know those books. Richard Scarry in Busytown. Oh, my God, no. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah, because you kids books. So I don't know. [00:22:55] Speaker B: That was amazing. When she falls asleep and says, I lost interest in my own narrative. That's brilliant. You know, a little physical comedy. I just. [00:23:09] Speaker A: She was super physical in the one before it really. I think the space was confining in this one. I never realized how, like, move around she was because I've seen her a lot, you know, both live and recorded. [00:23:22] Speaker B: She ever come through here? [00:23:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I saw it. I saw her at Athenaeum and what couple of other places. I've never seen her. Like, I would beg her to come to the lodge, but she does another place in town and I. I don't think I. She talked a lot about another comedian who she was friends with, and maybe I can reach her through her, but, you know, it would be like. It would be a high point to get her at the lodge, but I don't think that's ever gonna happen. But, yeah, I never realized how physical she. I knew she did the. The voices. When she does voices, they're awesome. Awesome. Like, you know. [00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Does the mom. [00:24:06] Speaker B: And she does characters really well. [00:24:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. The plot, the time I never saw her, so I was turned off. She was part of the Comedians of Comedy tour, which was Patton Oswald, who I'm not the biggest fan of. Brian Persane, definitely not a fan of. And then her. So I kind of avoided it for a little bit. [00:24:26] Speaker B: I love. See, I love Patton Oswald and not so much her, but. Yeah. I don't know who else was on that tour, but I thought it was Brian Posen. It's pose you had him. He was a part of one of the early. [00:24:40] Speaker A: JFL brought him in, I think. [00:24:42] Speaker B: JFL for just for that. Oh, just for that. [00:24:46] Speaker A: Anyway, getting back. Oh, Bamford. Can I just say, my favorite Bamford bit was in the special and she talked about how her and her husband found they had a common interest in suicidal thoughts. Which is dark as. [00:25:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:00] Speaker A: And then they went to see like a therapist about it. God, she must spend like half of her life in a therapist. Office. Office. But. And then they basically sort of wrote a contract or something. She said. And like, you know, I am worth it. I'm not going to commit suicide because I'm a da da. And they get it to write you. You got it to write it out. And both her and her husband wrote one of them. And then they put it on the fridge. [00:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:25:24] Speaker A: And she goes like, you like if someone goes to a house and like, oh, can I just get a LaCroix from the fridge? And then they. [00:25:31] Speaker B: She shows them like looking at it on the fridge. [00:25:35] Speaker A: Physical act. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah, she did. [00:25:38] Speaker A: Was like. [00:25:39] Speaker B: That was really good. That was really good. [00:25:42] Speaker A: That was my like probably favorite bit. Oh, I was one thing I was surprised about. So she's talked about her mom and dad her entire comedy career. I did not know she had a sister until this special. And then all of a sudden this sister appeared, which is weird. Maybe a sister had said, you can't. [00:26:03] Speaker B: What did she say about the sister? [00:26:04] Speaker A: I don't remember that. She's a life coach. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah. [00:26:08] Speaker A: And there's a bit where her mom had passed away and her dad. I don't know if this was made up. Dad gave her and her sister her mom's dildos. Do you remember that? [00:26:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:26:23] Speaker A: And Maria Bamford likes like. Okay. And her sister's like saged it, whatever that means. And then threw it in the recycle. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Disgusting. [00:26:35] Speaker A: I can't believe that happened. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why I didn't. Yeah. It's hard to know with any comedian. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Right that's the only bit. [00:26:43] Speaker B: That's the only thing you thought wouldn't be true. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Wouldn't be true. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Listen, I was trying to figure out who does she remind me of? And I always want to do this when we talk about these specials and these comedians. Who does she remind you of that came before her or maybe after? And it didn't occur to me. I mean, I kept trying like, who is this? And it just did occur to me, which makes sense why you like her. [00:27:09] Speaker A: I gotta guess. [00:27:10] Speaker B: Well, you don't have to guess. I'm just asking who you think. [00:27:12] Speaker A: Who I think she might be sort of in the footsteps we can call this. [00:27:17] Speaker B: She's a poor man's. No, that's not to, you know, reduce her is to be less than. [00:27:24] Speaker A: But she's like, yeah, but a poor man means worse. When I say someone's worse, I'll say it's the Aldi brand. Maria Bamford is no one's Aldi brand. I think she's in the footsteps of like the type of like, but not exactly the same as like your Joan Rivers, Phyllis Diller type. Very self deprecating. [00:27:48] Speaker B: But the weirdness, I mean, it's very weird, right? She's her delivery and her affects and her mannerisms are very strange and they remind me. [00:27:57] Speaker A: So you're looking at more of the physicality of it. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Yes. Like, like it's kind of like Pat. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Are you gonna say like bobcat or someone? [00:28:03] Speaker B: No, that's a good one too. I hadn't thought of it. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Who He. I'm not getting kind of. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. With like the, like she can't talk, like the way she does on stage. Like, like weird tics and stuff like that. But to me, it just, it just occurred to me, Emo Phillips, who you love. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:20] Speaker B: Like, like weird eyes and eye rolls and like body language. It's like that shit makes me uncomfortable. Right? Like that kind of comedian. Like, like I can't. Like. [00:28:33] Speaker A: That makes you uncomfortable. [00:28:35] Speaker B: That makes me uncomfortable. Why do you say like that? [00:28:37] Speaker A: Because I think I'm going to bring up Bill O'Donnell on stage. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Well, maybe I wouldn't want to watch myself on stage, I guess. But. Yeah, but I'm. You know what I mean? Like the weird. I don't need like, you know, like Pat from Saturday Night Live. Julius, Wendy's character, Pat, like, or Mary, like touching themselves weirdly. It's like. That's why I said that thing at the beginning about having sex. Like, it's like, oh my God, it's like so fucking awkward. Right? Like everything is so. But you must. [00:29:05] Speaker A: I don't get that from Maria Bamford, to be honest. No, no, not really. [00:29:10] Speaker B: So you think she's got normal body language, normal mannerisms, normal. [00:29:15] Speaker A: No, I think she's just doing comedic act outs. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. We really are Siskel and Ebert. You see the sky two different colors, huh? [00:29:28] Speaker A: No, I. I mean, she is increased of this. She has increased her physicality through the years. It wasn't until I watched the wrong one that I realized, wow, she like moves around a lot and stuff. And I think I'm only aware of that now because my favorite comedian right now is a guy called Stuart Lee we mentioned. And we'll get to him eventually. He does this whole thing of he hates every other comedian and instead of being like, you know, it's a professional courtesy, I'm not going to do it. He just tears him to fucking shreds. And he's got this whole thing about how in British comedy now everyone tries to be super physical. And he does. Stuart Lee does this thing is like, well, I'm gonna be a young comedian. And then he just runs six laps around the stage for no apparent reason. Just kind of running and then just doing like ducking down and all this. And he's just basically saying, these assholes are just jumping around like it. Like it's smoke and mirrors. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:25] Speaker A: And now since Stuart Lee has said it, I'm on the hunt. You know what I mean? To. To be like, okay, is this. Is this just some jumping frog idiot on stage? You know, because the whole we came up through open mics, the humping the stall, waving the mic around, blah, blah, blah, all of those, like, what were viewed as awful things. So now I look for physicality as a weakness. Like, okay, are you just trying to do smoke and mirrors here? Because Stuart Lee has told me comedians that run around and prance about. Yeah, bad. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I can't think of a good one that I like. I'm sure there are good. I mean, you got Jim Carrey, people that are very physical. But I don't necessarily like that, you know. [00:31:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not here to watch you jump around. It's. What are you gonna say? I can jump, so why do I need you to do it? You gotta. The point to me of comedy is I don't laugh at things that I could have thought of because they can't be that good if I would have thought of it. Right. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Like a Woody Alley. [00:31:28] Speaker A: You need to tell me something that is beyond me. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that is not in my wheelhouse. You've got to give me something now. Let me just quickly skim much. You skim your notes. I'll quickly. We'll pull in some filler music or something. See, I put in this delivery. She is looser and way more esoteric than. Than she was. [00:31:56] Speaker B: See, I don't have anything to compare it compared to for her because I don't even watched others. But. [00:32:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, talking of going after comedians, I. She went. She had a couple of digs in there. Not at specific comedians, but she, she was like. She talked about. What is it? Sex. Not. What do you call them? Sex crime people. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Registered, registered sex. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Registered sex offenders. And she' like, the thing I like about them is they tell you where they are. And she goes. Then she said something like, yeah, assuming, like most of them are in comedy, I can tell you where they are. They're all on tour. [00:32:30] Speaker B: And I was like, oh, I see, I missed that. I mean, I remember the bit, but I don't remember her saying that. So you think that's a dig at, like, Louis and. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah, she kind of like. Yeah, she, she, she started off as a set and then did it. And she says, I could tell you where they are. They're all on tour. Which is obviously a dig of, like, why we let in. I'm not going to say names because, you know, I want to get canceled by the higher echelons of comedy here. [00:32:53] Speaker B: But I don't think we're cancelable. Cancel. Or both. [00:32:56] Speaker A: Yeah. You can't cancel something you're not looking at. So Harvard bit, I think was. I think Harvard was the cornerstone of the thing. [00:33:05] Speaker B: Yeah. What about the Prius bit? Did you like when she talked about her Prius being banged up all over on three sides? I love that. And she said. Because I don't get it fixed, because I like the memories. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Yeah. What was that part of. [00:33:18] Speaker B: I don't know. It was towards. It was after the hospice bit about her mom. [00:33:24] Speaker A: All right, well, I think. Have we flogged this dead horse? [00:33:27] Speaker B: Have we flogged it? [00:33:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Well, go ahead. So. [00:33:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, we got to do the. [00:33:31] Speaker B: To wrap it up. I know what you're going to say. You're going to give it a confirmed kill. [00:33:38] Speaker A: Confirmed kill, yeah. [00:33:40] Speaker B: What would be not a confirmed kill, but like a questionable kill? Maybe maimed. She maimed me? Yeah, she might have maimed me. [00:33:51] Speaker A: Yeah, she made me put you in. Well, we could maybe if we did a scale. Right. So we've got. What's the opposite of Killian bomb. We've got a bomb. We've got a failure to detonate, which is not a total failure. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Right. [00:34:07] Speaker A: We've got a new scale. We've got a neutral entity. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Neutralized. [00:34:11] Speaker A: Yeah, neutral. Not in the war. Then we've got a maimed and then a killed. [00:34:19] Speaker B: We're. We're working it out. It took Siskel and Ebert years to come up with the thumbs. They did the stars. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Seriously, they did. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Then they had, like, grades. They gave them grades. If you go back and watch, like, the 70s and early 80s, it took them a while to get to the thumbs. We'll get there. I don't know what it is. [00:34:33] Speaker A: I like the thumbs because I used to have this. [00:34:36] Speaker B: Should we just do thumbs up? [00:34:37] Speaker A: No, bollocks to that. We'll do kill bomb. It'll be more fun. Yeah, because I. I used to. When I was into music, I used to read music reviews. And then after a while I'm like, why am I reading, like, all a music review should be is crap? Not bad. Good. Okay, tell me that and then I'll either buy the album or not. And we gotta work. We gotta work to that rule. [00:35:01] Speaker B: But see, people don't want any wishy washy. They want, should I buy it or should I not? Just tell me. And for this, I would say yes. Right? I mean, you've got to see this. This woman is brilliant, right? Whether she makes you laugh or not, or she's your type of comedian or cup of tea, I don't know. She wasn't mine. But she's brilliant and I can appreciate her. [00:35:22] Speaker A: All right, so we've got a killed and a maimed. [00:35:26] Speaker B: Killed and a maimed for now. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Cool. All right, Cue music. Out.