Special Episode: Beth Stelling Interview

[00:00:08] Speaker A: Well, let me say this. What a thrill, number one. What a thrill to have somebody else in here. You know, kind of getting tired of you and you. I love you guys, but like, we [00:00:19] Speaker B: need some, we need some fresh breath. [00:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:00:22] Speaker B: He must have been disappointed that it was a female though, because we, we know that you don't like female voices in comedy. [00:00:29] Speaker A: No, that's my wife. My wife says there's never been a funny female comedian, but. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Except for Leon Rogers. [00:00:36] Speaker A: Except for Leanne Rogers. And now after seeing her last, Leanne Morgan. I don't know, how about. [00:00:42] Speaker B: It just became a thing, didn't it? Leon Rogers. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Rogers. And then Dion Cole. Wait, wait, what was it? [00:00:49] Speaker C: Dion Sanders. [00:00:51] Speaker B: Leon Rogers. [00:00:53] Speaker A: Leon Rogers. I don't know. Leon Rogers. Now, my wife is a fan of Beth Stelling. I've seen her at the Watch last weekend for Valentine's Day. She laughed hard. That put my wife in a ribbled mood. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Four very funny females tonight. [00:01:09] Speaker A: They were all awesome. Really great. Really great. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Did that shock you again? [00:01:15] Speaker A: I am, I'm being miscast here as a misogynist or anti female comedy. I'm not. I love female comedy. I don't like Ellen. Yeah, I'm on record for that. Yeah. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Quite vitriolic. [00:01:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. But so as much of as, as much of a thrill as it was to have her in here, I was a little disappointed in like maybe how fast it was. We went so quickly. And you just wound her up with this. I don't even know. She just came in ready to go on this. Whatever. I, I honestly, I don't even understand what she was talking about. A lot of it, it was too inside comedy. [00:01:56] Speaker C: This is how you want to intro it? [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say you're introing. Don't listen to. Yeah. [00:02:00] Speaker A: What? [00:02:01] Speaker C: This is a terrible. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Remember, remember, I'm gonna edit this in to all the stuff. Well, so think on it. Think on it. [00:02:09] Speaker A: It's less about her. It's not that she was unintelligible. It's that I'm unintelligible intelligent. I just, I wanted to talk. [00:02:16] Speaker B: You're blaming me for sabotaging it by seeding it with industry. Yes, yes, but that was the point. [00:02:24] Speaker A: No, that was the hook. That was to reel her in. But what we really wanted to do was, you know, get to know Beth Stelling. [00:02:32] Speaker C: I think you guys need to open up better lines of communication. I think you're both expecting different things from this. [00:02:38] Speaker B: I already know best selling. [00:02:40] Speaker A: But I don't. And, but I, I wanted to ask her offbeat Questions, and I couldn't get them in because you wound her up like a. Like a top or like a toy. [00:02:50] Speaker B: I want to say something, but then it's a. It's a. What do you call it? Spoiler. Oh, it's a. Yeah, it's hard to. I'm thinking it's going to play after this. [00:03:00] Speaker A: You can talk about it. It's not a big. [00:03:02] Speaker B: No, I can't because then it's a spoiler. [00:03:03] Speaker A: Well, so it was. She was awesome and she was so cool and gracious and everything, but I just felt like, you know, I had so many questions I wanted to ask her that I couldn't ask her, you know, because she. You wound her up and then she went on a 40 minute soliloquy about the industry, most of which I didn't really understand. Or maybe I didn't understand it because I just was maintaining eye contact with her like this, like, so that she would think I was listening. And I was trying to listen, but I was just thinking about when she's going to stop talking so I could ask her enough questions. It seemed like that when. [00:03:37] Speaker C: No, I actually genuinely thought you were interested. I was over here, but maybe that's because I was over here interested in what she was saying. [00:03:44] Speaker A: You were? [00:03:44] Speaker C: Yeah, I really was. Because I was under the impression also that we were going to ask her industry questions and get to know how these specials are made. And so I thought it was going exactly as planned, but did it. And then about 30 minutes in, you said, I want to ask questions about the early crazy days about comedy. Well, we have to go in five minutes. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you really got abrupt. You are an abrupt man. And I called him. [00:04:09] Speaker B: 30 people waiting who had paid money to talk. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Most of those people didn't come till later. They came in late because I was out there as they were rolling in a half hour later. [00:04:21] Speaker B: But my only disappointment was because she'd self produced. Now I'm spoiling it again. [00:04:27] Speaker C: Just beep over that. [00:04:30] Speaker B: I'm finding it very hard to do this pre. [00:04:34] Speaker A: We've never done it before. Yeah, yeah. It's like a new sexual move out of the Kama Sutra. You don't know it. You got to learn it. [00:04:40] Speaker C: It's five minutes long so far. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, that's all right. Okay. [00:04:43] Speaker B: That's longer than any sexual move I've ever performed. Hey. So. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, did you get what you wanted from it? Did you learn what you wanted to learn? I didn't understand what you were talking about. [00:05:01] Speaker B: I mean, I learned what she said, but what I I thought it's just gonna spoil it. The I thought that she had been in the room with Mr. Netflix, and I was gonna learn, you know, here's. Here's how they hardball you. Here's all the rules they wanna and, you know, like, I wanted the mechanics. [00:05:25] Speaker C: Here's something good for the trailer then, because that's what I that's what I thought was going to happen too. And then I was pleasantly surprised that I was way off on everything I thought was true. And I learned a lot as a result. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I learned a little bit about the business, like, the business of it and how, like, you've got it. You're basically making an album and trying to sell it to a producer. Right. Or to a distributor or something like that. But, like, [00:05:49] Speaker C: I don't care about any of that now. [00:05:51] Speaker B: You know what I think about it? The answers should still have been there because she said the first one. Spoiler alert. Netflix approached me, so they would have laid out the rules. [00:06:05] Speaker D: God damn it. [00:06:08] Speaker B: So the the questions were there. They were still on the table. [00:06:12] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:06:14] Speaker C: How hard is that heart? [00:06:15] Speaker A: No, it's good. I just took them out of the bag. [00:06:17] Speaker C: Oh, okay. I thought they'd been sitting there. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Oh, God. [00:06:20] Speaker A: But then at the end, like, you youu browbeat me, or you belittled me in front of her and told me to stop talking like a child, like, that's it. No more, right? And like, I, like, sunk down in my seat in front of her, my tail between my legs, like, sorry. [00:06:37] Speaker C: I know. She looked over at me confused, like, is this normal? I said, yes, it is. This is very normal. [00:06:42] Speaker A: I called him today on the way in here because I was a little early, right? And I was like, I call them up because I'm trying to call people. You've inspired me with. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Hey. [00:06:50] Speaker A: All right. [00:06:50] Speaker C: I'm glad it's spreading. [00:06:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:51] Speaker C: Oh, God. I got a story about that, by the way. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Okay. And I call him and I go, hey, is there a car wash? You know, a car wash around near near the lodge so I can get my car wash? [00:07:00] Speaker D: What. [00:07:01] Speaker C: What do you call. [00:07:01] Speaker A: What is this about? Like, it made me feel horrible, like [00:07:05] Speaker B: my dad [00:07:09] Speaker A: and he did the same thing in front of her. Shamed me in front of her. [00:07:14] Speaker C: We're breaking a lot of ground here. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you and I need to [00:07:17] Speaker B: get who calls someone and says, where's the nearest car? [00:07:22] Speaker C: Somebody that knows that the person works there. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah, you're here. [00:07:25] Speaker C: All the time and has a car and. [00:07:26] Speaker B: And I haven't washed my car in 27 years. [00:07:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:31] Speaker B: I'm vaguely aware of the only reason I'm wearing. [00:07:35] Speaker A: I was gonna call you and I was like, him or him, him or him? And I called him and he got mad at me and I goes, christian there? Can you ask him if he knows. Get out of here. Like you were having a wank or something. You couldn't get me off the phone fast enough. [00:07:51] Speaker B: The only time I even noticed car washes, when we drive by and I go, look at those twats queuing up. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's nice to have a nice clean car. [00:08:01] Speaker C: I don't even know if I would know where to tell you around here. I can't think of one. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Elston. [00:08:07] Speaker A: So several. So please enjoy. Beth Stelling. Yeah. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Even though you now know exactly what. [00:08:16] Speaker A: I don't know anything. I didn't know anything. [00:08:17] Speaker C: She didn't have to listen anymore. [00:08:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't understand anything she said. I wanted to get into her personal life. I want to know how she made it and all that. You know, she told a little bit about that, but you should have gone [00:08:29] Speaker C: to the Q A. Oh, were you [00:08:32] Speaker A: in there for the Q and A? [00:08:34] Speaker C: I was. I was behind the. [00:08:34] Speaker A: I wanted to go. [00:08:35] Speaker C: I was working. [00:08:36] Speaker A: I thought it was going to be fun. [00:08:37] Speaker C: I don't get to go to the fun things. I. I stay out in the. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, he let you. [00:08:42] Speaker C: No, he says. No, he says, do not. Do not show up there. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:46] Speaker C: Don't let them see you. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Does he yell at you like. He yells at me all the time. [00:08:49] Speaker C: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. [00:08:53] Speaker B: I'm abusive. [00:08:55] Speaker A: I want to go to the Q and A. But it was in. I thought it would be in the big theater and I would slink in the back, watch like a voyeur. But it was in the small theater and there was sitting on the lap like Santa Claus couldn't slink. [00:09:07] Speaker C: It's hard to slink in that theater. [00:09:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:09] Speaker B: You sort of did get into her personal life by asking her if she knew someone she dated for a couple of years. [00:09:17] Speaker A: Well, I was just going through a laundry list of names. [00:09:21] Speaker B: That was the highlight of it for me because she gave. She gave me this cheat. Cheeky look. Yeah, she. She looked. As soon as you said the name, she looked across at me and just literally, like, smiled with her eyes, almost like. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Anyway, it was a big thrill for me. [00:09:45] Speaker C: I agree. I also really enjoyed it. [00:09:47] Speaker A: Was it? Yeah. [00:09:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I just wish, you know, your one question that you asked that [00:09:54] Speaker D: got a [00:09:54] Speaker A: 45 minute answer, you know, loud for maybe Christian or I to be involved here. But maybe next time. Maybe next time we'll get to ask [00:10:02] Speaker B: a question that's a. Actually that's like a good interview. A good interviewer does that. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Ask one question and then. [00:10:10] Speaker B: And yeah, says very. If you look at the quality of an interviewer, if you. If you go through history's interviewers, people. People like David Frost and Michael Parkinson and what's some yank interviewers. [00:10:25] Speaker A: This is Howard Stern. [00:10:27] Speaker B: No other. There's other people. If you look at the. How good they are, the quality is how little they talk, how much the guest talks. [00:10:37] Speaker A: That is true. That is true. [00:10:39] Speaker B: I've seen some Dick Cavat barely said a goddamn word. Have you watched any of it? He's not saying a word now, is he? No, no, no. He's very quiet now. [00:10:47] Speaker A: Very quiet lately. Haven't heard much from him lately. No, I guess that is true. I've seen some interviews of like people I really wanted to see. Like. And I went to the interview and the interviewer dominated the whole thing and just making it all about himself or herself. And it's like fucking just let this, the person we all came here to see talk. So it's probably better because I would have. Here are the questions I was planning on asking her. Do you like Taco Bell? Do you. Do you. Do you fart? Do you like fast food? What kind of music do you listen to? What's your favorite movie? I did get to ask. Well, I don't want to. Do you know Dave Stebbins? No, she doesn't. No. Do you. Do you know when you're going to bomb? Do you watch other comedian specials? [00:11:47] Speaker B: That's a good one. That would have been a good one to ask. [00:11:50] Speaker A: And then I wanted to ask her about the. When we watched the special. Remember how the captions kept coming up and saying, yes, sucks teeth. [00:11:55] Speaker C: Oh, God. That's what I wanted to. I remember we couldn't. [00:11:59] Speaker B: We. [00:11:59] Speaker C: We even said we wanted to ask her about that if we ever had the chance. And we had the chance. [00:12:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:04] Speaker C: We didn't ask. [00:12:04] Speaker D: I know. [00:12:05] Speaker A: That's how I felt. [00:12:06] Speaker D: That's. [00:12:06] Speaker C: So now I'm enraged. I just went from one to. I went from one side to the other. I just went. [00:12:13] Speaker B: Why didn't you tell me you had a plan? I just saw. I just thought being you, you would have just walked up. No, no forethought, no plan. Just shambling around. So I took the lead. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And I kind of, I. I tipped you that way too, to say, like, ah, you. You do it. [00:12:30] Speaker C: You. [00:12:31] Speaker B: You know, so you kind of. [00:12:34] Speaker A: I'm just, you know, a little disappointed. [00:12:36] Speaker C: I was too starstruck too. I was starstruck too, to pipe up. [00:12:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I was nervous. [00:12:42] Speaker C: I just kind of let you guys take the reins. I just sat here and left. [00:12:45] Speaker A: All right, well, please enjoy Beth Stelling. Never been out with him. [00:12:57] Speaker D: Oh, wow. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Never invites me anyway. Do the proper intro. [00:13:02] Speaker A: What is the proper intro? [00:13:03] Speaker D: Hey, everybody, I'm Beth Stelling. I'm here at the Lincoln Lodge returning. The prodigal son returns. No, I actually. Well, I definitely. Mark did give me my start here at the Lincoln Lodge. It was a big deal. I was very grateful and really my first descriptor of what I was. I never knew how to describe myself. So he was like, you know when somebody likes to ask you, what do you do? And you're like, I don't know. I don't know how to describe my style. This is just what came out of me. And it said dark and subtly hilarious. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Dark. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't find you dark. [00:13:37] Speaker B: Did I say that? [00:13:38] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Or. He said you were dark. [00:13:39] Speaker D: I was, yeah. I mean, this is. I've been doing stand up for 18 years. So. Ebbs and flows of darkness and lightness, huh? Yeah. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Where are you on the dark meter right now? [00:13:48] Speaker B: Yeah, dark matter. [00:13:50] Speaker D: I've been drinking some dark matter coffee. I'm full of dark matter. I'm fighting dark matter within my body. I would say five, seven. I don't know. I mean. Yeah, I always a good chunk on alcoholism. Right now. Yeah, it's pretty dark for some people. I mean, the challenge obviously is to make them laugh as they sit there and watch me while drinking. [00:14:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Which they'll be doing here tonight. [00:14:21] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, Hopefully. [00:14:22] Speaker A: So I went and listened. So we reviewed your special. [00:14:26] Speaker D: Oh, okay. [00:14:26] Speaker A: Oh, we're. So the idea for this podcast was that Mark and I would be like the new Siskel and Ebert. [00:14:33] Speaker D: Oh, wow. [00:14:34] Speaker A: But of comedy specials instead of movies. [00:14:37] Speaker B: I was brow beaten into it. [00:14:39] Speaker A: You were? [00:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. [00:14:42] Speaker D: Yeah. So hard to get Mark's opinion. [00:14:44] Speaker A: I know. But we have 40 something episodes of his opinions on everyone's comedy now having reviewed so many people. But I went and listened to it. Cause I was like, I better listen to see what I said about Beth. This was like a year ago. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yes. [00:15:00] Speaker D: Or even a couple. Because the last hour long I put out was 2023. [00:15:05] Speaker A: This is that one. [00:15:05] Speaker D: Yeah. And that was on Netflix for two years. I licensed it to them for two years. And then I put out a YouTube half hour last summer. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:14] Speaker D: That was the like, that's what I've put out, I would say, in the [00:15:16] Speaker A: last couple of years. Yeah. Because when I watched it originally it was on Netflix, but then when I went to watch it again last night. [00:15:21] Speaker D: YouTubes. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it wasn't there. It was gone. It was on YouTube though. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's the first question, isn't it? [00:15:27] Speaker A: Is that a question? [00:15:28] Speaker B: Yeah. How does. How. I forgot what was my question, Christian? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was like I wanted to get into. Okay, how does a Netflix. How is a Netflix special birthed? [00:15:45] Speaker D: Like, I mean, it depends on your level of fame. I, you know, there are, there are still plenty of tiers of comedians that make them a lot of money like that have an overall deal. I think Bert KREISCHER Got a $10 million overall to give them maybe three specials or something. I don't exactly know. But it was very high. It was in the middle. And then I don't know what his show was a part of that or not. Same for like Segura and Chappelle. Like, you know, they have. So that's going to happen. I'm sure they paid Sarah for hers. I think she keeps going back and forth, which is the way to do it. But I forget if postmortem. I think postmortem was on Netflix. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. [00:16:23] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:23] Speaker D: I toured with her a little bit opening for that last year. So yes, that's on Netflix. But someone like Sarah, of course is going to get an offer. There's no, like, we'll see if we like it. You know, it'll be like, yeah, we'd love to have your next special on our platform. So the other comics are have [00:16:40] Speaker B: like [00:16:41] Speaker D: my experience with Netflix would be them. Like, I don't even really know where to start because this is a greater commentary on the state of our industry, which is failing like almost every other industry that's changing over time. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Like newspapers. [00:16:57] Speaker D: Yeah. Or Uber and cabs. Like that's always my go to example because, you know, we used to rely on cabs. That was it. Right. And of course there's corruption everywhere. We're human beings. There's no way we are going to be able to all agree on something. So. But ultimately, like, you know, you would work for your medallion as a cab and that was prestigious and it meant that you were an expert in your field. And then Uber came in and was like, well, we'll get you there for $2. And everybody's like, wait, that's a good. Now, older people, of course, are like, well, I'm not giving them my credit card. And then everybody else is like, oh, my gosh, I got there for seven bucks. And now how much is an Uber? It's more than a cab and you're driven by a rapist. So it's one of those things where you're like, okay, Every industry is getting taken over by the new thing that's undercut people, people and how much they're made. There's no union barriers in place any longer, and we're ultimately screwed. [00:17:45] Speaker A: So was there ever a comics union? [00:17:47] Speaker D: No, no, there never has been. Which is actually that this is all interconnected in the way that I was able to get into any other field to make money by way of standup. So I don't know, it's tough to give advice. Like, sometimes somebody would be like, hey, can you come talk to the standup class at USC or ucla? And it's like, if I've learned anything, I love reading autobiographies. It's somebody's story, it's their path. And this is. Sounds cheesy, but it's like everybody's path is different. Which is why I like reading autobiographies. You know, it's like, never linear. It's never like, I did this to get this and then that. And so anyway, I'm taking so many tangents because it is all so crazy in the sense that there's the beautiful thing about the Internet, which is more voices anyone could break technically going viral otherwise. There's also the negative sides of it, which are pay to play, which I wish that weren't the case, but, you know, most of the comics, you know, pay for you to know them, and it's anywhere. And it's thousands of thousands. What do you mean by that? There's so much I didn't know, like, you know what I'm saying? When I started, I'm someone who doesn't come from money. I moved to LA from here with the most money I ever saved, which is, I think was like $1,200, which immediately, obviously evaporated. [00:19:07] Speaker A: Pretty broad here. [00:19:08] Speaker D: Yeah. No, that I went. That I moved in a car and my mom happened to give me her old Mercury Sable, and I was like, I'm set. You know what I mean? I got to la. You know, you don't. They're hard to park very long. [00:19:20] Speaker B: You could drive in one if they were. [00:19:22] Speaker D: But I had to get multiple jobs and like, and I think it was like, oh, work your way up. And things are a meritocracy. And in some ways, like, those things can be true, but you're looking for your breaks. And even, like, I'm working in a coffee shop and nannying and doing errands for somebody else. And then I get on Conan right when I move to LA, and that paycheck is about. I think it was $900. And then you give 10% of it to your manager and 10% of it to your agent, then taxes. You're not quitting your coffee shop because you were on Conan. And in fact, at that point in time, too, as things change, what a Conan spot might have broken you in the past. No one cares. And that was in 2012. So it's like, it doesn't. It means something to me. It means comedy. I love that I did it. I've changed so much. Like, if you watch that, it's what mark described. It's 2012, and I'm subtle and quiet and you know what I'm saying? So I've changed as a human. Anyway, I guess all I'm saying is now. So the beauty of the Internet is technically, no gatekeepers, and yet we're back to gatekeepers. Because when I say pay to play name, you don't have to. But a comic you like, that's very [00:20:29] Speaker A: popular right now, Caleb Reardon. Reardon. [00:20:33] Speaker B: Caleb Heron. [00:20:33] Speaker A: Caleb Heron. [00:20:34] Speaker D: Yeah. I love Caleb. [00:20:35] Speaker A: I love him. [00:20:36] Speaker D: He's great. I would say he's actually one of the unique sort of standouts in the sense that HBO offered him a special. So that is still happening. That's like a prestige network that continues to sort of pluck people and say, we want you, because they are still tastemakers. Kind of like maybe the last bastion of taste makers. [00:20:54] Speaker A: So hbo. [00:20:54] Speaker B: So when. So what. How did. [00:20:58] Speaker D: What you count on me to go on any kind of tangent? [00:21:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:01] Speaker B: What was. So let's say you're right from Beth Selling. If you didn't want me then. Yeah. Now streaming on Netflix. [00:21:10] Speaker D: What was YouTube? [00:21:12] Speaker B: Well, what was the starting point where it. It was like, okay, this is the point where that end point started. Was it your agent, manager? You going, you know me in the [00:21:25] Speaker D: sense that, like, I. I am very. Like, I'm not the person who's, like, super tight with their representatives. I don't really trust anybody. It all kind of leads back to the fact that, like, I don't come from money. So it's like, I feel very strange spending it on what I just mentioned. To you. So, like, if someone saying, like, if you want to promote your special, you should get pr and your agents go, we'll set you up with that meeting. And then you go to that meeting, and they go, so we're such big fans. We're $3,000 a month with a minimum of three months. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Okay. That's what you mean by all that? [00:21:56] Speaker D: Yeah. And. Oh, that's not even. Right. It's 6,000, I think, a month. Six times three. Yeah. So some people are paying that. And then other people need it, though, [00:22:07] Speaker A: like, because it's so DIY now. Do you really need it? [00:22:10] Speaker D: Well, I mean, I would never do that. I mean, in fact, actually, when I. When. When they wanted me to do that for my h, I said, okay, because I. That was like, I've changed over time and what I also accept or what I'm willing to do. And I was like, okay, I guess I should do that because they're telling me to do that. And I was about to get a big paycheck from hbo, because that's. Back then. That was like, six years ago when I was actually given money. Like, all I had to do was show up and do my job. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll do that. And then after. Then Covid hit, and I was like, I don't want to pay that. And I think. And I was able to just say, like, I'm canceling my contract with this PR company. But that's changed into, like, people paying for social media, and there's people here in Chicago that pay for it. I think it's around, like, 3,000amonth or something. [00:22:59] Speaker A: Like, buying followers. [00:23:01] Speaker D: No, I think, again, this is, like, everything that, like, you can't keep up. That was a thing. I remember Joe Mandy bought, like, a million followers, like, as a joke. And. But I'm sure it, like, also parts him. But. But then. And people love to say, like, oh, you can always tell when somebody's bought followers because they would have many, but no comments or likes. Right. But then people got wise to that, and you could start paying for likes and comments. [00:23:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:25] Speaker D: And now I. I have on Instagram, I would say is the only. Is like, my main little social media thing that I posted to try to get people out to my tours. I have around 160,000 followers. You can look at a post from mine from yesterday, and I'll be like, 600 likes. I don't pay for followers. So if you were going by that old measurement, you'd be like, well, Beth paid for Followers. I was like, no, I'm just not paying to be in your feed now. Everything is terrible. And if I like everything, just as soon as you think I've done all the right things to get to here, it changed. It'll change. And there'll be a new app or you. I can pay for being my feeder. I can push it into trial reels, or I can. And there people you pay to know how to do this for you. [00:24:11] Speaker A: So it sounds like you're weathering all that on your own and just kind [00:24:14] Speaker D: of like, letting it go again. I have dabbled. Like, when a management person's like, hey, try this company. I'll do it. And then it won't feel. I'm like, I'm 40, but I sometimes feel like I'm so old in this industry, not, like, in an insecure way in. How would I know what's going on? Like, to me, if I'm gonna post, I'm like, well, I've mailed you a letter. I hope you got it. Everyone else who's young and understands and is just like, oh, no, you just obliterate people's brains every day by posting seven times. I'm like, that's so rude. Like, I have, like. And it's not right. It's not helping me. But, like, if I were to, like, I've seen people who are my age. It's not an age thing, but it's in my head that, like, it's. It would be rude for me to email you seven times in a day. So why would I post? Yeah, they're not seeing it anyway, so they're right to say, inundate people. But it's also unhealthy because they just. Because I'm not paying for you to see it. So, like, everything has a cost now. And I think. I mean, I don't know. There was that clip that went viral, I guess, of Bo Burnham, who was like, they're coming for every second of your day. Like, every second of your day will be monetized. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:25] Speaker D: And that's why it is probably healthier to get up. But I've also seen people who, like, I met some comic that was, like, probably my age, but, like, starting to come up. And they're like, I'm such a big fan. I was like, thanks so much. So great to meet you. Start doing shows. And she was like, I'm gonna start posting every day. And I promise, you know who that person is now, because she's dedicated her life to posting every day. So it's like it is rewarded to work for free now. So like, if I'm speaking of like my old school mentality, if I was like, don't. If you asked me 10 years ago, like, should I start posting my standup every day? I'd be like, why would you, like in an old grandpa way, why would you give away. If you give away the milk, nobody's gonna wanna buy the cow. Meaning you give away your sets online. No one's gonna come to pay to see you live. Which then people started posting crowd works. They wouldn't, they wouldn't give away their jokes. So when you went to go see them live, you'd still see the hour they're working. [00:26:15] Speaker A: Is that why Rife is doing all that crowd work? [00:26:17] Speaker D: I think that's his actually sort of becoming his use. But yeah, and I don't, I don't know how to put it, like, because I think he does do a lot of crowd work. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Well, he did a whole special, I think just crowd work. It was called the crowd work special. [00:26:27] Speaker D: I think he's a separate lane to this. I think there's like, he's like a Dane Cook phenomenon. We haven't really seen anything like that. I mean, I don't know, but that's the weird thing about Dane is like he is back and it's weird. [00:26:40] Speaker B: I mean, is he still wearing the vest? [00:26:42] Speaker D: I haven't seen a vest. Anyway, this has gotten very. Sorry. Into a wormhole. I haven't really answered your question. There's too much to even deal with. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Did Beth Stelling wake up one day and go, I want to be on Netflix and I'm now single mindedly going to march that path. [00:26:58] Speaker D: No, no, I mean, like, I feel like my first special was. Well, I did a little south by Southwest short one with Showtime and then I got my Comedy Central half hour. That used to be the thing you were working towards. And so that was. Yeah, 11 years ago. And I think they paid everybody. I forget what it was either 10 or $20,000. So that was the most money I'd ever seen in my life. [00:27:22] Speaker A: What did you do with it? [00:27:23] Speaker D: Well, I saved it. Yeah. Because after taxes I think it's like 9,000. And that's before someone tells you to incorporate. So then you can get. Yeah, there's all. [00:27:31] Speaker A: So your best selling llc. [00:27:33] Speaker D: I wouldn't tell you what my business is. Poopy diaper ink. No, but and then Netflix to the point of Uber. It was around that time that Netflix said we're gonna do half hours and they offered us all $100,000. Nice to give you an idea of the Uber example. So cut to what you're asking me about. Yeah, I have this hour. I feel really good about it. This is after my HBO special. And my agent at the time, I'm not with him anymore, was like, nobody's [00:28:05] Speaker A: buying, so you've already made the special. And then shopping it, I just have [00:28:09] Speaker D: a proof of concept. I just have a video of it where I'm like, here's my hour. I'm really good place with it. And does anybody want it? He's like, nobody's buying. And I go, okay. So that would have been 2022. And I was like, all right, that sucks. I guess I'll just film it myself. And so I called my old first manager because he's been making. He was working for 800 pound gorilla at the time, but I didn't want to work with them. And I just said, will you just be my producer and get like, production? I can't think of his title, honestly. Just like, there's another word for it. But basically get everybody together to come film this in my home because I already have my tour booked. And then Mo Welch was like, why don't we just end it in your hometown at Dayton, since you're already there and then we'll film that. And I was like, okay. And she brought on Jordan Levy as the dp. He has a lot of experience doing it and they live really close to each other. And so we were like, okay. I was like, here's my budget. I want to spend 50 grand. And why? Because Netflix won't buy anything that doesn't look big. So they want you to take the risk on it needs to look big. Like, whoa, you're a big deal. [00:29:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:26] Speaker D: And they might buy it. [00:29:28] Speaker A: How do you make it look big? What looks big? [00:29:30] Speaker D: Just a big theater. [00:29:31] Speaker A: The theater. [00:29:32] Speaker D: If you can fill a theater, I mean, but then. [00:29:33] Speaker A: But there's production value that makes it look big too, right? [00:29:35] Speaker D: Sure. Lighting and types of cameras and sound, of course. [00:29:40] Speaker A: High end shit. High end shit. [00:29:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I've heard you have to have, you know, whatever it is spec and Netflix give you the spec of like, we won't stream it unless. [00:29:50] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:29:50] Speaker B: Meet this spec, Right? [00:29:52] Speaker D: Yes. [00:29:52] Speaker B: So you really. Okay. So it. So it. You weren't in a. You weren't in a room with Mr. Netflix. And Mr. Netflix says, no, we want you to give us this special Buy this day. [00:30:02] Speaker D: No, I think some people still have that. We're like, hey, we promise we'll buy it if you make it. I think there's like a hip pocketing sort of. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Well, we, we had the argument about that the other day, didn't we? [00:30:12] Speaker A: What? [00:30:13] Speaker B: Whether they would just take it sight unseen or. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Oh yeah, we're talking about Chappelle. [00:30:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:19] Speaker A: He could take a dump in a box. They got to show it, right? [00:30:21] Speaker D: I think so, yeah. Yeah. I mean he has been so. Yeah, I would say. [00:30:28] Speaker B: Well, okay, well, hold on. [00:30:30] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean it's all pretty like, but it depends on who you talk to. If somebody's doing really well right now, they're like, oh yeah, they made me an offer. And you'd be like, okay, cool. [00:30:36] Speaker B: You see, I like, I do like the single mindedness of like, I'm just going to make this and then driving relentlessly towards the goal. That's been the story of my life and downfall. But, but that sort of money, like anything above a thousand dollars and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, that's a. [00:30:58] Speaker A: He wouldn't pay 200 for a Zen. Sorry. To come here and perform. You wouldn't. You said it was too much. 200. You only wanted 200. You wouldn't do it. [00:31:06] Speaker D: I think that's fun. I love that about you. [00:31:08] Speaker A: He's so cheap. [00:31:09] Speaker D: He didn't need a mirror. [00:31:11] Speaker A: What did he used to pay you back in the day? Five bucks, 20 bucks? [00:31:15] Speaker B: I've got it in an Excel sheet. [00:31:17] Speaker A: Brought it in. [00:31:19] Speaker D: I don't know, 8, 12, 15, 20. [00:31:20] Speaker B: I should bring it in. I said, I called it. [00:31:23] Speaker D: I was happy with 20. [00:31:24] Speaker B: Whatever it was we're doing, we're doing 1099 at this time of year. And I call it the this is who owes me their ass phase of my accountancy. [00:31:35] Speaker A: Because you paid them so much. [00:31:37] Speaker B: I sit there over Excel sheets going, I can't believe I gave that money to this piece of. [00:31:46] Speaker D: What? It's over 600. You got a 1099. [00:31:49] Speaker B: Yeah, well, actually they're just moving it up to two grand, which is huge for me. [00:31:54] Speaker D: They did? [00:31:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:55] Speaker D: Well then why did I have to send. [00:31:56] Speaker B: No, no, no, next year. [00:31:57] Speaker D: Okay, great. What a beautiful thing. Because that's going to save me on like any opener that I give extra money to. Yeah, because clubs haven't gone up in pay and that stuff has to be declared with this. [00:32:08] Speaker A: New Trump laws. [00:32:10] Speaker D: No, it's old forever. If I pay an opener of mine over 600 bucks, just pockets it. [00:32:15] Speaker B: I have to get it W9 and 1099. [00:32:18] Speaker A: So I have all these youth that work for me. At my camp and I just. I just give them personal checks. [00:32:23] Speaker B: That doesn't sound dodgy, does it? [00:32:26] Speaker D: I mean, if you're not a corporation, if you haven't incorporated. I'm llc that I'm not as well versed in. But I think you might still need to 1099 people if you've paid them throughout the year. Over 600. [00:32:37] Speaker A: But I call it a stipend. [00:32:38] Speaker D: Oh, okay. [00:32:40] Speaker A: Giving him a stipend. [00:32:41] Speaker D: Stipend. [00:32:42] Speaker A: But yeah, I say stipend. [00:32:43] Speaker D: Absolutely. And I think stipend would require a second P. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Now, some people say that, [00:32:51] Speaker D: but we're still in this realm. There's still people that, you know that are big, that are like, hey, they'll come to even Jordan or another producer and say, I want to make something for fit 50 grand. And they'll be like, okay. And also, there's a reason I was able to do that. Like, in the sense that kind of what we've talked about. I not coming from money moving, starting to make money, getting my TV writing gig, saving everything I ever made. And not. And I. First of all, I absolutely should have invested it. But, like, I don't have, like. [00:33:19] Speaker A: What do you mean? [00:33:19] Speaker D: Like, in stocks anywhere. Yeah. Or even just had it. Instead of like, I. [00:33:23] Speaker A: Money market, nice return on money. [00:33:25] Speaker D: 5% anything or a saving high, high yield savings. But because I was just squirreling and being like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe I've saved this much. It's like I. And I say this in my little the Landlord special from last year. I'm like, I feel safer looking at a lump sum. Watching it depreciate. Yeah. [00:33:42] Speaker A: Knowing it's there. [00:33:43] Speaker D: I have it right here. [00:33:44] Speaker A: You can have it whenever you want. [00:33:45] Speaker D: It was a huge risk for me to be like, I'm gonna take my savings. Like, it was like, a little dumb, I guess, but I was like, this is a great hour at the time. And I was like, I'm gonna make it and then I'll sell it. And even still, my agent at the time was like, netflix isn't buying. I said, please just send it. I didn't include any of my agents or managers in my taping. I sort of didn't tell them what was happening. I didn't. I just had Matt do it and said, here's what I'm doing. We edited it with Brian, and I sent it in a link and was like, send this around and try to sell it. And they were like, it took a while, at least six months. And then they were like, Netflix wants it. So their classic licensing deal is $200,000 for two years. [00:34:28] Speaker A: How exciting was that day? [00:34:30] Speaker D: I cried because I had spent my life saving. You know I'm saying, like, I cried. [00:34:36] Speaker B: Did you have, like, 87 meetings with them or. It was literally just meetings. [00:34:41] Speaker A: What did you do? [00:34:41] Speaker D: The only. So. So this is also comes into play of who you've met along the way, and it's not like, who you know. I don't mean it like that. I mean, like, Robbie Prah, who is in charge of Stand up, he gave me my first break, probably because Mark recommended me for New Faces. I tried out three years. I eventually got it. Robbie left jfl, went to Netflix. So this person's known me forever. We've. We had our own little issue for a separate thing. But. So I already have that. A little stacked against me. But then they brought over. Who else? The company. They ruined Comedy Central's Joanne and Ann. They brought them over to Netflix. They obliterated Comedy Central by saying, you want to pay comics 20 grand, we'll give them 100. And now, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's all. It's the Uber situation and corporations in stock and all these things, and investors, and that's who they're sort of catering to. But Abby Launder, who I also knew just from comedy in la, she ran Riot Festival for a long time. Now she does Netflix as a joke festival. [00:35:40] Speaker A: Riot Festive Music fest. [00:35:41] Speaker D: No, it was in la. It was a comedy fest that she started downtown. That was really cool because I know her and have known her for years. She texts me. I was just walking by somebody's desk and they were cackling, and she's like, do you wanna know what they were watching? And she was like, you're special. So that gave me, like, that glimmer that at least someone over there was watching it to review it. And then I did get the offer. There is a clause in there that says if we wanna keep it for another five years, you get another 150 or something like that. But they didn't take that. Whatever. There's a word for it I can't think of right now that there's a word I can't think of right now. But option. They didn't take that option of the deal. So then I got it back. So this is the beauty of the model, which is I own it. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:26] Speaker D: So girl Daddy will always be on HBO Max, which is also cool. Like, I'm happy about that. They own it. They get it. It's always there. So it can sit there. My half hour. Netflix owns. It'll always be on Netflix. That's the first season of the Standups is what I was referring to. Me, Soder, Nikki Glaser Bargazzi, Dion Cole Fortune Feemster. So that is when they came. And we're like, we'll give you 100k for 30. And we were. I mean, I. Of course I remember exactly where I was. I was standing in my sister's kitchen in Dayton, Ohio, and I was like, you have got to be kidding me. [00:36:55] Speaker A: What did you do that night? [00:36:57] Speaker D: I don't know. Probably hung out with my family and celebrated. [00:36:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:00] Speaker D: But I just remember exactly where I was standing because I was like, they changed my life. [00:37:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:04] Speaker B: So. [00:37:07] Speaker D: But anyway, sorry. All this to say that's how much I guess it has changed. But even after those half hours, there was an option in that deal which is, we'll take your hour. And they didn't take. They took everybody's but me and Soders. So then Soder and I went to hbo. And that's. I mean, not as a team, obviously, separately, in years apart, but then that was a payday. So since then, it's like I. I felt like, yes, I was driving towards. For me, if anything, it was an HBO special. That was my dream. So I got that. And then it was like, nobody's buying. Nobody wants it. And then Netflix was like, we want it. And now I had a new hour that ready to go in May of 24. And Netflix was like, it's too soon. And then Hulu, Amazon were like, we're looking for people who do huge numbers on social medias, but this is some of your. Our favorite material of yours. You killed. They came and saw it live at Netflix's Joke Fest. We love you. But it was like, we want. We need people who have big social media followings. So they said, no, that was in May of 24. So then I got really sad. And I always like to. I felt like an animal that was shot and just was bleeding out on the way home, like for the entire rest of my tour. Because as much as you want to be like, I'm good and I believe I'm good and I work hard and I care. It still hurts your feelings when somebody gives you a no. And then HBO was just very much like, we love you. We're big fans, continue to be. But to the point of like, Caleb, he's great. Like, I love Caleb. He's a friend of mine and he's just unique, talented, Funny. So there's no mistake there on their part, but that is a hotter ticket. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not like, killing it on a podcast. And I'm doing, like, I don't know. [00:38:48] Speaker A: I'm not like, you're killing it on this podcast. [00:38:50] Speaker D: Actually, I think I've been pretty depressing and made a lot of discussions about money. But maybe this will help someone. I don't know. [00:38:55] Speaker A: He wants to know about this. He wants to. Somebody else could be like, dig through your files. [00:38:59] Speaker D: But I'm just saying, like, $50,000 is not. It's cool in the sense that I could tell you I never thought I would ever have that. So it's cool to be like, you could do that. It is possible. That's the craziest thing on the planet. But then again, too, it's like, I want to tell you that if somebody comes up to me here, like, big fan. I started here. I want to move to la. I don't want to be a curmudgeon, but I want to be like, well, don't. Because of what I'm discussing, which is everything is changing so drastically, like, because of the undercutting of unions, because we went on strike twice. It didn't help. I mean, like, there is a way. So I'm not saying don't do it because you have to try. And the reason you start, even as a standup is because you're young and dumb and think somebody should probably listen to you. But, like, so you need that delusion. You need the drive. And it is possible. So I don't know if it, if it's like, I remember moving there in a strike too, but it was a different time. [00:39:56] Speaker A: But when you started, right? Like, you. It must have seemed like the same kind of pipe drink that it is to these kids, right? [00:40:02] Speaker D: So that's why I'm like, I'm not going to tell someone. No. Plus, they wouldn't listen to me. Like, and they shouldn't, right? No, they shouldn't and they shouldn't. And I would never say, oh, doors closed, ladder pulling. It's not a ladder pull. It's just like I. I've said this before to, like, the UCLA kids. I'll be like, some app will come out tomorrow called, like, Ding Dong and I'll be opening for you next year because you'll have 5 billion followers or something. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker D: So it's a mess. I'm doing my best. Like, I don't want to be bitter after all those no's. I was like, well, I don't want to be the bitter person. That's like. Because you heard for a while there, right? You would hear comics be like, oh, these tiktokers taking all the club spots. People aren't going to come back and see them because they don't have what we have, which is like the ability to do 45. They do two minute videos of crowd work that they captured and it's like, yes, those things are kind of true, but also no. In fact, they'll probably get at least three years out of a tour. Why? Because they love that person. They watch them every day in the palm of their hand and if they went and saw them once and it was pretty bad, they'll give them a second try and maybe a third because they watch them every day and they want to see them again. Back in the day at Zany's, guess what they would have during the day? Soap opera stars at the matinee. People. People want to meet the person they see on their TV whether they're good or not. [00:41:19] Speaker A: What do you mean during the day? They weren't open during the day. [00:41:22] Speaker D: Yeah, they would have a, a Soap Opera like 2pm with a star. [00:41:27] Speaker A: There's a meet and greet. It's Zany's. [00:41:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:41:29] Speaker A: Why it's Zany's? [00:41:31] Speaker D: You know this because they need to make money. [00:41:33] Speaker B: I've never been, I've never been in. [00:41:34] Speaker D: I'm just saying, like, I'm using it as the example because like that's part of it for them. So there is this thing that has changed so much with standup about what is it and who's doing. Like, it's, it's tough because some like I had a fan come and see me in Dallas a couple weekends ago and she sat up front and you could tell she was like, had watched. She talked to me after the show and she sat up front and I did. I don't do crowd work really. Like if I have to, it'll come up, but I genuinely will ignore you until you shut up for the most part. And sometimes you actually have to name it because then people don't think you're good enough to like deal with this situation. Yeah, so like I will, but mostly I'm like, go to an open mic, stop interrupting what's going on here? [00:42:13] Speaker A: That's what you'll say. [00:42:15] Speaker D: People came to see a show and I have that for you, so please enjoy. But it's not like I'm like, don't interrupt the queen. It's just sort of like I've prepared something for you. Cause that's my job. So if you're yelling out because you're drunk or you need attention, this is not the place. And I'm also not gonna roast. Like, I'm not the comic where you come to see me and I look at you, I'm like, well, you look like a piece of shit. Let me roast every aspect of your life that I can see with my eyes. But this woman up front, I had a little interaction with her, and then afterwards she's like, we sat up front because we wanted to get roasted. It's like, how interesting that she paid to see me kind of knowing what I do and thought that that might happen with me. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:54] Speaker A: Cause you don't do that. [00:42:55] Speaker D: I don't do it. So it's like we have. We're experiencing this unfortunate, like, bad. What am I trying to say? Reputation or what? We've experienced a bad shift in perception of what it is that standup can be. So, of course, we used to revere the crowd workers because it's a difficult job. It would be Todd Berry or Moshe or, you know, you'd be like, I want to watch them do that, because that's so incredible. And I wouldn't touch it because I was like, for a lot of reasons. So it's not that I never have the interaction I do, but because of all the videos and the inundation and like, what do you do? Are you with this person? And that's kind of what we're seeing. Of course, that's what millions of people think standup is. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Plus there's social media we used to dread. We still dread podcast famous people because the crowds think, oh, this is a mate of mine. I know every aspect about their life. So this is a dialogue. [00:43:51] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:43:51] Speaker B: And we just dread them. Sorts of crowds. [00:43:54] Speaker D: But yeah, and you'll hear that all the time. Like, Like, I. I've heard other comics say this, but it is also something I'm proud of, which is when I'm at a club, they go, we love your crowd. The waitresses love them. Like, I am grateful for the people. Again, another thing I've said, and some. Some. Some new podcast guy tweeted about me and was like, you don't have to say that. You have it as a joke. And I go, but I do. Because I just don't like being disingenuous. [00:44:21] Speaker A: Have. What is a joke? [00:44:22] Speaker D: Like, if I say I have a joke about this, and then I'll say it. You don't have to do that. Just perform the joke like. No, I'm not a fucking weirdo. Anyway. [00:44:31] Speaker A: Well listen, I'll give you a heads up. I'm gonna be in the front row tonight. [00:44:33] Speaker D: Okay. [00:44:34] Speaker A: I'm going to try to interact with you. It's gonna get ugly. [00:44:39] Speaker D: It's just one of those things where like I don't know, it can be there. I don't know. Who knows the line? Some people know it and it's like acceptable. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Yeah, but a lot of them don't. [00:44:51] Speaker D: No. [00:44:53] Speaker B: Well like I say now with social media they think you're. That's. Oh, that's my mate there. Because we, we. I know everything. [00:45:00] Speaker D: That's my fear I guess of like if I were to post every day and like show parts of my home or my boyfriend or. Yeah, it's like that's actually not something you need to see. [00:45:12] Speaker A: Like Savannah Guthrie's mom, you know? [00:45:14] Speaker D: Yeah. You can't show them where she lives. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:19] Speaker B: We only got a few minutes. [00:45:20] Speaker A: That's it. You took up all the time with all these businesses. [00:45:23] Speaker D: Well, I just rambled a lot. It really was a lot of stuff about that. But at least. So yes, the rejoice was that I made my money back on that special. But if you do the calculations after taxes and commission off of that big paycheck. So you have your 200. What's 20% of 200? [00:45:44] Speaker A: Don't downplay it but I just mean [00:45:47] Speaker D: you walk with less than I made on the half hour. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Yeah, but listen, we can. We know you've got a lot of money. Are you in the. Are you in the market for a new home or a remodel? Because if you are. [00:45:57] Speaker D: Are you a contractor? [00:45:59] Speaker A: I'm not but I have someone at Begain Construction that can come in and provide a brand new. It'll be brand new. All high end appliances sub zero. [00:46:09] Speaker B: How do you feel about Wolfax splashes in? [00:46:14] Speaker D: I don't have one right now. [00:46:15] Speaker A: Put a backsplash in like you've never seen. [00:46:17] Speaker D: I don't have a backsplash. [00:46:19] Speaker A: How about a piss splash? Have you seen the piss splashes in here yet? [00:46:22] Speaker D: He's probably one of those. [00:46:23] Speaker A: You just put in new piss splashes in the background. [00:46:25] Speaker B: For my boyfriend I put a piss splash in the men's. [00:46:27] Speaker D: Good idea. So it wouldn't turn the wall yellow. Yeah, that's fine. [00:46:32] Speaker B: It was getting pretty bad. [00:46:33] Speaker D: Yeah, that's nasty. [00:46:34] Speaker B: But anyway, point it in the toilet. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Begain Construction for all your high end needs. Call Begain at. [00:46:41] Speaker D: Yeah, this sounds like y' all begin let's begin. [00:46:48] Speaker A: Let's begin. [00:46:49] Speaker D: So have we been recording? [00:46:50] Speaker A: No. Let's start. [00:46:51] Speaker B: Beth should wrap it up before the sound effect. [00:46:56] Speaker A: But I want to ask all these questions about the scene back in the day because. Yeah, I. So part of the reason we started this is I was frozen in ice for 25 years. But before that I was a working comedian. [00:47:08] Speaker D: Cool. [00:47:08] Speaker A: Yeah. And. But I don't roasted. When did you start here? [00:47:15] Speaker D: 2007. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Was that. Yeah. [00:47:18] Speaker D: Were you alive or slow? [00:47:19] Speaker A: I was alive. [00:47:20] Speaker D: Frozen. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Frozen ice. [00:47:21] Speaker B: I think you were gone. I think the last appearance you did at the Lincoln Lodge was Purple ray in the diaper. [00:47:28] Speaker D: Oh, wow. Okay. [00:47:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that was a high, high way to go out. [00:47:32] Speaker D: Do you mind telling us your website? [00:47:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. I have a Full Life dot com. That's the name of my website. [00:47:41] Speaker D: I have loveinmylife.com. [00:47:42] Speaker A: no, I have a full life. [00:47:44] Speaker D: Okay. [00:47:44] Speaker A: My life is very full. A lot of people in it. [00:47:47] Speaker D: Beautiful. [00:47:48] Speaker A: But I want to ask you all about the people in the scene back in the day. That's all I want to talk about. [00:47:53] Speaker D: I know. And then he was like, let's talk business. And then people were like, well, how. Also clearly too, you can spend. Who is 4000, 5000, I'm sure 1200 on a special that you make look beautiful and put it on YouTube and people could find it and that could help you too. Like, I. [00:48:10] Speaker A: That's what you're gonna tell these people. [00:48:11] Speaker D: That is the only. That's the beautiful part, I suppose, about access. That's kind of what we were saying. But. [00:48:16] Speaker A: But don't you still believe that funny will. Will find the light or whatever, right? [00:48:21] Speaker D: I hope so. Yeah. [00:48:22] Speaker A: No matter what, everything's always changing. But like, if you're funny, it's funny. [00:48:25] Speaker D: I think my dream continues to be making a living being funny. Thank goodness. Wow. What a gift. [00:48:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:32] Speaker D: Being. Being. Remembering that and having gratitude for it and then having the right people find me. That's all I want. [00:48:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker D: Like, that's. That's the part that's annoying is like, do I have to pay for that? Because people do. So that's. That's the part that bugs me. Like, I wish it was like, dear algorithm, just show my stuff to people who would like it benefit. I know this sounds cheesy, but heal from it like that it would get me to the people that would love it and I'll see them out there. That's what I would love. [00:48:58] Speaker A: I'm sure you've searched yourself. Right? And when you put your Name. Maybe you haven't, but when you put your name and it says people also searched for. [00:49:05] Speaker D: Yeah. Or it'll say, like, husband. And it's like, all my ex boyfriends. Oh, my God. [00:49:10] Speaker B: I had a pretty good. It's always like, husband network. [00:49:14] Speaker D: Where do they even get that? I'm like, what are you talking about? Sorry. The people who were leaving when I got here. Like, I remember seeing Bridenstine and Renee Gauthier doing, like, a goodbye show at the Chicago Underwater. [00:49:24] Speaker A: How about Adam Kroshi? Do you know Adam Kroshus? [00:49:26] Speaker D: I do know him. He would do our. I ran entertaining Julia because Jenna Friedman passed it off to me. Faye Canale, Tiffany and Danielle Putterbaugh. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:49:36] Speaker D: And then Faye kind of like, I love Faye. She was such a good. Like, she was like a little mentor to me. I love her so much. [00:49:43] Speaker B: No one made me laugh more than Faye Canal. [00:49:45] Speaker D: She's so funny. [00:49:46] Speaker B: I remember flyering outside Belmont Elf Stop one time, and me and someone were there, and Faye comes out, you know, just out of the Belmont l stop from her job, and she's. Oh, what are you doing, lads? And we're like, oh, we're gonna do some flyering. And so fakers give me some of those flyers. And this guy walked out of the stop, and she goes, fly comedy show. And the guy was just like, you know, people are. And she goes, don't you ignore me. This guy, like, right in the middle of the pavement, and he just turns bright red. And she goes, you're not walking away from me. And then followed him down Belmont. Faye. Faye made me laugh more than anyone. She's so funny. Just. [00:50:28] Speaker D: I think she should just. [00:50:29] Speaker B: Back in Seattle. Yeah, back in Seattle. [00:50:31] Speaker D: I should reach out. I mean, I think I have in the past. We just lost complete touch. But she was so good to me. And Jenna was great to me, too. Friedman, she was like, here's a list of all they would make sure. Really funny. Like, she kind of pulled me out of that day of Odd World and was like, come over here and maybe tell me about Mark and other people and. But Jenna was moving to New York. Me and the Putterballs kept going on Entertaining Julia. So that became our weekly Sunday thing, which was fun and free. [00:50:54] Speaker A: All right, well, I just want to know. But you know these guys in my fancy football league, [00:50:59] Speaker D: and those guys were about to leave when I started. [00:51:03] Speaker A: All right. Adam Krosus. You know him? [00:51:05] Speaker D: I know him. [00:51:05] Speaker A: C.J. sullivan? [00:51:07] Speaker D: No, him. [00:51:08] Speaker A: Brady Novak? [00:51:09] Speaker D: No. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Bill Cruz. [00:51:12] Speaker D: Know him? I love Bill. Bill was one of Those. [00:51:15] Speaker A: He's here. He's back. He moved back. [00:51:16] Speaker D: Really? [00:51:16] Speaker A: Yeah, he just got a job with Beth Duffy. [00:51:19] Speaker D: That's. I love Bill. Very funny. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Erica Costa. [00:51:24] Speaker D: Yep. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Who else? [00:51:32] Speaker D: Come on. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Brian McGann. [00:51:34] Speaker D: Sounds familiar. [00:51:35] Speaker A: Brian Petrovka. [00:51:36] Speaker D: Sounds familiar. Yes, I remember him. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Painfully familiar. [00:51:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:39] Speaker A: Sean Cole. [00:51:41] Speaker D: Yep. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Yep. [00:51:42] Speaker D: Because Emily. [00:51:42] Speaker A: Dearest Emily Derisus. Yeah. Yeah. [00:51:44] Speaker D: We're still best friends. [00:51:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Her and I are very close as well. [00:51:47] Speaker D: Oh, not as close as we are. [00:51:49] Speaker B: She didn't call any of us when she came into Chicago. [00:51:51] Speaker A: No, she didn't. We really trapped him. [00:51:55] Speaker B: Wow. [00:51:55] Speaker D: Emily, did you hear that? She's like, no, I'm not listening. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I did send Emily a link to the podcast, but. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:04] Speaker B: Never heard back about great work or anything. [00:52:06] Speaker D: No, I'll text her anyway. [00:52:09] Speaker B: We really do have to end. No, we do. It is. It's ending time. Whoa. It's past ending time. [00:52:16] Speaker D: Oh, my God. Emily just texted me. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Wrap it up. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Whoa. [00:52:20] Speaker D: Emily, hold on. I gotta send. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Send her a picture of us. [00:52:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Say you're in a podcast studio. [00:52:27] Speaker D: Okay. 1, 2, 3. [00:52:29] Speaker B: I like how Beth's not even in the picture as she starts. [00:52:33] Speaker D: Okay. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Come on, Nate. Craig. [00:52:35] Speaker B: No, no. It's got to end. It's got to end. It's got to end. I got it. [00:52:38] Speaker C: Okay. [00:52:38] Speaker A: All right. [00:52:39] Speaker B: It's got to end. [00:52:40] Speaker A: Dude. Jesus. [00:52:42] Speaker D: Anybody else? [00:52:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't ask because he won't let me. I'll do it tonight at the show. I'll just shout out the names of [00:52:48] Speaker D: these people and I say, what do you do for a living, you piece of. [00:52:52] Speaker A: You can't. [00:52:52] Speaker D: You look like hell. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Fine with it. [00:52:54] Speaker D: Oh, is anybody here to you? No, you're unable. [00:52:56] Speaker A: If you want me to do that, I'll be a plant. I'll just, like, skull out. Humiliated. Or I won't say anything like, leave. [00:53:02] Speaker D: Jerking off. I thought it was going to be more like Louis ck. This lady's mean. [00:53:07] Speaker A: All right, I. I will say nothing else. [00:53:09] Speaker B: Okay. [00:53:11] Speaker D: See another. It's a lot of podcasts. [00:53:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:13] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. All right. Beth, you got a. [00:53:17] Speaker D: That was depressing for anybody listening. There is a chance for you. You could do a GoFundMe and start your GoFundMe for your special when you [00:53:25] Speaker A: come back, if you ever come back, we just talk about all those people again. [00:53:28] Speaker D: The fun things. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [00:53:30] Speaker A: All right. [00:53:33] Speaker D: Beautiful Gong.